Tommy Robinson

The judge that jailed him immediately after his appearance outside that court was found to be in breach of judicial process. TR was kept in solitary confinement whilst there. Outrageous hypocrisy by the powers that be.

The reason these Pakistani gangs have flourished for so long with impunity is because the police and labour councils are terrified of being accused of racism and in the case of the councils, losing votes from communities with large muslim population. TR has been trying to highlight these and other issues.

I an not a TR supporter by any means but I won’t lambast the man when I agree with a lot of what I, personally, have heard him say.

Suzeiwoozie where is your outrage at these local police and councillors that turned the other way when these young girls were being beaten, drugged and pimped out?

EV, I absolutely despair when you bring up Hamza. God help us.

Quote from the trial judge”One of the senior judges, Dame Victoria Sharp, said the court will consider what penalty to impose for the contempt - which carries a maximum penalty of two years - and give full reasons for the decision at a later date.

She said Robinson breached the reporting restriction imposed on the trial by live-streaming a video from outside the public entrance to the court and by "aggressively confronting and filming" some of the defendants.

The judge said the content of the video "gave rise to a substantial risk that the course of justice in that case would be seriously impeded" and the confrontation of the defendants was a direct interference with the course of justice.”
Simple.

I think this may account for the councillors actions or non-actions

It’s always interesting to note the supposedly tolerant ones venting and getting abusive. Gonegirl where do you get off on telling people to F... off? Others saying people with opinions differing from theirs shouldn’t be on here. This is Gransnet not Guardiannet. We can say what we like as long as it’s not abusive. Some of you need to get a grip and get real.

I'm not sure we are the ones who "need to get a grip and get real"...

GG13 I don't think the concept of grooming was quite as well recognized then as it now is. Thankfully there is now greater acknowledgement that grooming occurs, and how it influences and draws in vulnerable people of any age.

By silencing and jailing him the government has perpetrated a horrific injustice
NannyC, he was in contempt of court - don’t you get what that means?

There are some ugly views being expressed on this site and I am concerned that our “self moderating” ethos is letting some very dubious opinions through. ?

GillT57 Your comments indicate that you are a supporter of free speech: well yours, anyway. If this site supports your free speech, surely it must support the free speech of others ....

The government simply has to “ keep a lid” on extreme views right or left because it could easily snowball and cause serious public order problems.
The security services keep a close eye on all extreme groups wether they are Right wing, Religious, animal rights or any other group that may gain momentum.

This man was found guilty of contempt of court, it had nothing to do with his views or the views of his followers. His actions could have resulted in guilty men going free.

As for his being put in solitary when in prison - do you think that was probably for his own safety? If he had been put in general population I think there would have been a very good chance he would have been attacked.

Johno agree with your post regarding Pakistani rapist gangs in UK. The abuse by these people was horrific truly horrific.

I am totally against grooming of any vulnerable person, just as I abhor violence against women, children, men, ill treatment of animals and all of the other acts/ behaviours that you will find are not permitted by law in the UK. I don't care who carries them out , I just want the perpetrators dealt with . This man, by his stupidity, could cause a trial to collapse and the perpetrators could walk free. He has been found to be in contempt of court and deserves what he gets. I don't see why he is above the law, it applies to all of us. If the court decrees that no-one can report on a case then that is it. What is it that is so difficult to understand?

It seems to me that that there are 3 issues. TR is a facist, anti-british racist and a thug, all of which he lieingly denies. He deliberately defied a court order to stir up racial tension, and that has nothing to do with free speech. Finally there is the issue of gangs of men, in the particular case, who claimed to be Muslim but the Muslim community detest, who have carried out repeated abuse of young women in their neighbourhood.

Each of these issue are separate the thing that brings them together is the obnoxious TR who seeks to abuse the victims of sexual abuse to cause public disorder in the name of his justice

But he’s not a great man is he? Tommy Robinson doesn’t really exist. He’s Stephen Yaxley Lennon. He’s pretending to be someone he isn’t. He’s using a name to appeal to individuals with far right tendencies who he then manipulates with his hate speech to become facist bigots.

An extended family member (white) targeted and abused my sister and other family members for many years before being brought to justice. It would be a serious mistake to assume that only certain sections of society, religious or otherwise, harbour peadophiles. They can be anywhere. They find ways to get close to children. It seems to me that Mr Robinson is using this as an excuse for his own ends and I object to that. We are all subject to the law.

I have worked professionally with sex offenders, including paedophiles and I think them vile, but it is for the criminal justice (police, courts & law) system to deal with them.
I agree with Maw, Gonegirl & others that 'Tommy Robinson" is despicable - extremely right-wing, racist, fascist, hate- mongering & self-seeking. Just my view, others are entitled to theirs providing they aren't offensive.

And I agree that he is a vile, racist thug who pretends that he is only interested in free speech. I suspect that he is not so interested in free speech when it applies to others commenting on his actions or disgusting opinions. He has a long list of criminal convictions and quite frankly seems a very unsavoury individual. Of course, we are all entitled to our opinions, but I wouldn't give him the time of day.

Latecomer to this thread, but it is factually correct to say that this man live-streamed footage of the defendants from outside the court while the jury was considering its verdict, plus aggressively confronting the defendants involved, a clear breach of the reporting restrictions.
The fact he is an odious toad is immaterial in that judicial context.

Lessismore----I was comparing freedom of speech, one was allowed one wasn't so what's your problem ?

Nazir Afzal was flogging a dead horse so far as the police were concerned. I felt sorry for the man.

Eloethan
Perhaps rather than make comments that appear to support this man who you admit you "really don't know anything" about, you should acquaint yourself with the facts first

I find this comment offensive, especially when my post only asked who was he and what makes people hate him so much. Your response could be construed as displaying a somewhat facist attitude.

Joel I don’t want to sound mean but your post to Eloethsn was a bit out of order I think. You said in your first post that you kept hearing about him but you didn’t follow it up did you and your post did sound as though you were minimising what he had done?. I certainly wouldn’t join in a thread about someone I knew nothing really about and give an opinion.

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