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When WAS Ivanka trump elected?

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paddyann Thu 11-Jul-19 22:51:45

Now the news is out Liam Fox will be negotiating post Brexit deals with none other than Ivanka Trump....the news just gets better and better .Can any Brexiteer tell me why this is good news for our trade or lack of with the good old US of A?
Why in all thats happening accross the pond and here is America happy with trump's daughter working in a n official capacity ?

Gonegirl Fri 12-Jul-19 11:30:03

I think she'd be a better President than him! I like her.

All Presidents have assistants don't they?

maddyone Fri 12-Jul-19 12:40:50

Indeed quizqueen.

Whatever one thinks of Ivanka Trump, I despise some of the comments on here about her clothes and hair. I thought we women had thrown off the shackles of women being judged by their clothes and looks. Discuss her politics, discuss the nepotism, but leave off the judgments and catty remarks about her looks.

Mcrc Fri 12-Jul-19 13:06:48

When was Hillary CLInton elected in the 90's when she worked health care? etc. Ivanka is a businesswoman. Maybe she can do some good things. sooo tired of everyone immediately jumping all over things because someone is a Trump or works with them. No matter what they do they are at fault. They could solve global warming and it would be blamed for causing crop problems or anything that could be imagined. I just turn off the news, read a book, garden and enjoy my lake home. Life is too short to get pissed about everything.

suziewoozie Fri 12-Jul-19 13:08:20

I comment on her looks etc to demonstrate my utter contempt for the fact that she is no way qualified or experienced to be fulfilling the role she does. I never comment on the appearance of proper female politicians but would on their policies, behaviour in office etc. She looks like a Barbie doll by the way and I guess her head is as empty

MaizieD Fri 12-Jul-19 13:09:25

Getting pissed sounds like quite a good thing to do!

Mcrc Fri 12-Jul-19 13:12:50

Jobs are up, wages are up, economy and stock market is great. I don't think about Trump being an embarrassment. I am sure there were many vulgar presidents before but we never knew.

Mcrc Fri 12-Jul-19 13:14:09

Oops! I forget I am on this site. I should have said "getting mad!" lol

Mcrc Fri 12-Jul-19 13:16:17

I believe Ivanka has an MBA? I am afraid I would not hink Congresswoman Cortez is any sort of proper as she blames everyone for everything. Who determines one's ability to work or govern?

maddyone Fri 12-Jul-19 13:17:24

It’s a shame you’ve lowered your standards suzie. The art of proper and dignified discussion is to never lower your standards, imho.

maddyone Fri 12-Jul-19 13:21:16

mcrc, well Suzie thinks Ivanka Trump does not have any ability, so maybe everyone should ask her.

petra Fri 12-Jul-19 13:34:16

she looks like a barbie doll by the way and I guess her head is just as empty
They said that about Dolly Parton. Once known as one of the toughest women in Hollywood.

maddyone Fri 12-Jul-19 13:42:00

That comment is incredibly rude isn’t it petra? And of course it is an opinion, to which of course the writer is entitled.

What really bothers me about these descriptions is the way women, I’m presuming that most of us are women, are so easily able to slip into the kind of comments that are so sexist, against their own sex! If men were saying these things, there would be uproar.

maddyone Fri 12-Jul-19 13:42:41

And yes, Dolly Parton is a fantastic role model in my humble opinion.

Jane43 Fri 12-Jul-19 13:49:14

If she does stand for President it needs a credible woman like Michelle Obama or Oprah Winfrey to take her on.

maddyone Fri 12-Jul-19 13:55:33

Yes Jane, I think it does. Michelle Obama would be a very good candidate in my opinion. It would be fantastic for the USA to have a female president wouldn’t it?

paddyann Fri 12-Jul-19 14:07:26

Wouldn't we all be up in arms if maggie Thatchers son or Blairs daughter sat in on important meetings and negotiated deals for their country? I know I would .the people we VOTE for are the ones who should be doing that work not somebody's daughter or SIL .I'm not interested in her looks but then neither were the world leaders whose conference she attended last month who clearly thought she had no right to be there and who literally turned their backs on her as she waffled on .

Amagran Fri 12-Jul-19 16:18:34

I can excuse vulgarity Mcrc, but not blatant lying, misogyny, sexual abuse, nepotism, vindictiveness, intimidation, childishness, fraudulent business practice, disregard for legal process and eye-watering vanity. I don't think any other president has managed to achieve such a comprehensive portfolio of awfulness.

I do not think that Ivanka's elevation into the realms of international diplomacy and trade is appropriate, but she and Melania appear quite wholesome compared to their adult male blood and marital relatives.

Barmeyoldbat Fri 12-Jul-19 16:19:56

Good post paddyann and I am in full agreement with you. In Cambodia, a 3rd world country, they have an elected president who has given office to all his family. So running the country is a family affair, pretty much like how the US is getting.

suziewoozie Fri 12-Jul-19 19:59:20

Dolly Parton is the polar opposite to Ivanka Trump. Born into real poverty, made her very successful way in the world because of a range of incredible talents and hard work, no inherited wealth or contacts and also does a range of philanthropic and humanitarian work as well as caring for and supporting family members. She’s incredible, I love her and she’s also very very witty.
It is absolutely wrong in every way possible the role that IT is carrying out. It’s insulting to our Government and therefore to us that we are supposed to negotiate with her. She does not have an MBA and basically has ‘designed’ jewellery and clothes and been a model. She has not been involved in any political life or office until her father behaved like a tin pot dictator and installed her in the White House.

maddyone Fri 12-Jul-19 20:13:06

Suzie, I totally agree with you about Dolly Parton. I really like her too and I admire the way she has worked so hard for her success, and also for her philanthropic and humanitarian work. She is a wonderful example to us all.
Of course some people are born with a silver spoon in their mouth, twas ever thus, but I don't like nepotism either.

petra Fri 12-Jul-19 20:24:15

Who voted for Olly Robbins ( Chief Brexit negotiator) ?

CarlyD7 Fri 12-Jul-19 20:58:05

Donald Dump sees his whole presidency as a golden opportunity for him and his family to make as much money as possible - even with countries who have, historically, been America's enemies (such as North Korea and Russia). Involving Ivanka and her revolting husband is just part of that plan. I've no idea why Americans put up with it - but then I've no idea how Dump got into the White House in the first place.

maddyone Fri 12-Jul-19 21:00:17

We’ve just got back from America, and it seems a lot like here, people seem to love him or hate him. They seem to have a very divided country, much like us I suppose.

suziewoozie Fri 12-Jul-19 21:01:51

Petra Ollie Robbins is not May’s son, hotfooting it into Downing Street from a ‘career’ totally unrelated to political life and experience. I’m sorry but that really is not a sensible analogy.

suziewoozie Fri 12-Jul-19 21:08:23

Maddyone it’s not IT’s silver spoon thats the issue, it’s her total and complete lack of any relevant experience for the role she is fulfilling. It just cannot be justified in any way, shape or form. At least when John Kennedy brought in his brother as Attorney General, he was a qualified lawyer with a range of legal experiences