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So it's Boris

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mallows Tue 23-Jul-19 12:31:03

I know we knew this would happen but it didn't stop my heart sinking when it was confirmed. It's not even about party politics. It's about him. The country is in such a terrible position and the thought of him being the one trying to solve all the problems is farcical at best and utterly depressing.

lemongrove Thu 25-Jul-19 19:33:24

Hilarious GGM3 grin

The subject was a lot of tv watching going on today.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 25-Jul-19 19:43:30

I saw "lemongrove. And you used it to "other" someone, to make them "less than". At the very least that is rude and unnecessarily cruel but, because you do it so often, to the same group you appear to be unable to put a point of argument to, I think it is worse than just rude.

lemongrove Thu 25-Jul-19 19:45:53

Utter tosh!

lemongrove Thu 25-Jul-19 19:49:34

growstuff suggested some posters can’t get out ( true enough) but also as today was predicted to be the hottest July day on record, a lot of us were staying in and keeping cool....which accounted for all the HOC tv watching.
Now, you have had it all explained to you.?

GracesGranMK3 Thu 25-Jul-19 20:39:08

No lemongrove. Just because someone isn't singing your song does not make what they say "utter tosh". I appreciate you have no argument (yet again) against your rather cruel tendency to "other" people but I have a right to a view on that tendency.

I wonder if you could get a place on the current inclusiveness courses the infant an junior schools are running where you might learn that we are all equal - not less than because our race, religion or different political views.

HazelG Thu 25-Jul-19 20:52:23

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here we are,,,,,,,,

Nothing to be done but make the best of it, and always hit the polling stations, it's the only way to make a change. The worst of it is are any of them any good?

Lessismore Thu 25-Jul-19 21:25:30

lemon ain't going on any course any time soon.

lemongrove Thu 25-Jul-19 21:39:13

Sometimes the posts on GN are just so wonderfully nutty.wink

Callistemon Thu 25-Jul-19 21:49:41

They do say that mad dogs and Englishmen (and women) go out in the midday sun, lemongrove!

That would be DH and me, but no dog now, alas.
We were not alone, there were many others grin

MaizieD Thu 25-Jul-19 21:50:37

And the message to every Tory MP in the HoC is

its my way or the Highway

Does it occur to you, UG' that he has a majority of one and that alienating tory MPs is not the way to retain it. It won't take many defections of MPs too honourable to hold their noses, for him to be left with no majority at all. And thus, unable to pass any legislation.

lemongrove Thu 25-Jul-19 21:55:11

Then you were very brave Callistemon ?
We cowered inside sucking ice cubes, watched tv and did crosswords.......it’s still hot even now!

Callistemon Thu 25-Jul-19 21:59:13

Perhaps it wasn't quite as hot on the coast lemongrove.

*it's my way or the highway^
MaizieD Boris will be threatening them with de-selection next if they don't toe the line - taking lessons from Jeremy!

lemongrove Thu 25-Jul-19 21:59:28

Still MaizieD you have agree it’s a bold gamble by Johnson to do what he did with the Cabinet sackings.Time will tell whether it was the right thing ( for him) though, if he makes enemies.

Urmstongran Thu 25-Jul-19 22:10:59

Yep, of course I realise the numbers in the HoC don’t stack up! Boris won’t back down. If the EU won’t try to negotiate a new deal (the old one was thrown out like a dead cat 3 times) then Boris & team are preparing for No Deal - with details to be open and transparent - not secretively as Mrs May and Eeyore Hammond did - keeping everything under wraps.

He’ll do his best. Which quite probably won’t be good enough as our own MP’s will vote his ideas down I bet.

General election then. Boris & Nigel will make a pact not to pinch votes off each other then Brexit can steam ahead.

Labour doesn’t have a clear side to back so will lose votes - either to Farage for Leavers or Lib Dem’s if they are Remainers.

Boris can then say ‘look I tried. I gave it my best shot. I’m on your side to get this done’.

That’s my take, for what it’s worth.

POGS Thu 25-Jul-19 22:48:47

MawBroonsback Thu 25-Jul-19 17:11:20

"It seems that some people have had little else to interest them today than watching the Hof C on TV!"
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That's me told then. confused

Actually I do watch a lot of BBC Parliament ' Live ' on free view as some posters probably have noted. I like to hear from the horses mouth to make my decisions and follow politics and to be honest I find nothing wrong in that.

Others like to get their information from believing some very dubious blogs and post links to them etc.

Horses for courses I guess.

PS, Yep health issues too and politics ' is my interest'.

Just saying, not annoyed. Accept I am a sad b----r. grin

lemongrove Thu 25-Jul-19 22:53:10

grin
Nope, not at all, politics is very interesting, and no more so than right now.

Urmstongran Thu 25-Jul-19 22:58:11

Who was it that said something about ‘if you’re tired of politics you’re tired of life’ or some such?

We are behind Boris, he is going to be a great leader, just look at the Commons today, cheering to the rafters, duplicitous and appeasing May could only dream of such a reception!

MaizieD Thu 25-Jul-19 23:11:49

MaizieD Boris will be threatening them with de-selection next if they don't toe the line - taking lessons from Jeremy!

I think that's up to the constituency party, not the party leader, isn't it? Party leader can withdraw the whip but I don't think they can order deselection.

If there are wholesale deselections it could be interesting as mass deselection is not a particularly common process.

Constituency parties usually comprise a very small percentage of the constituency electorate and are packed with activists who may not represent the general views of the constituency voters. If the deselected one stood as an independent or for another party would local voters stick with their (deselected) MP or would they stick with the party they usually voted for? In the current state of politics can one be sure of anything happening 'as normal'?

Just musing...

MawBroonsback Thu 25-Jul-19 23:31:20

www.nationaltheatre.org.uk/shows/the-lehman-trilogy

In answer to Whitewave (I think) this was an absolute tour de force!
Quite stunning in every respect -unmissable! (And so good not to be anything about politics!)

Elegran Fri 26-Jul-19 14:09:40

I think it was Samuel Johnson who said "Sir, when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life", but I suspect that in the last few days a lot of people have become tired of London

suziewoozie Fri 26-Jul-19 14:23:31

Samuel Johnson was just so metropolitan elite wasn’t he? ☹️

Callistemon Fri 26-Jul-19 14:31:55

I expect that London was quite a contrast to Lichfield!

Urmstongran Fri 26-Jul-19 14:35:03

Haha! Thanks for explanation Elegran and for the giggle suziewoozie
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Lessismore Fri 26-Jul-19 14:40:20

" if you are tired of politics , you are normal" a very famous quote.

Urmstongran Fri 26-Jul-19 14:58:35

I like that too Lessismore