Corbyn as caretaker

These were the points that Grany listed:

•warned against rises in the minimum wage
• defended Tory tribunal fees
• voted to scrap the EMA allowance for poor pupils
• voted for cuts in disability payments
• backed the hated Bedroom Tax
• voted to triple tuition fees
• voted to bomb several Muslim countries
• backed austerity throughout

I've now had a look at her voting record too and it also includes:

Voted against higher benefits for people unable to work through long term illness or disability;
Voted for increasing VAT;
Consistently voted against raising tax for higher earners;
Voted against taxes on bankers' bonuses;
Voted for selling England's state-owned forests;
Voted against greater regulation for fracking;
Voted against greater regulation of gambling;
Voted for privatisation of Royal Mail;
Voted for restricting the scope of Legal Aid.

Aside from more liberal views on drugs, same-sex marriage, and LGBT issues and an overwhlmingly pro-remain stance, there seems to be very little difference between the Lib Dems' views and those of the Conservative Party. So much so that I wonder why someone holding such views would not just join the Conservative Party.

Corbyn is a huge disappointment to me.
A let down and we don't seem to have a viable alternative.
To me has always been the invisible man .
Yes RosieLeah is right .

Resurgam123

He is the invisible man because the billionaire newspapers won't report positively instead four years of attacks don't want a Socialist Labour government

If you see him at the many rallies he is not invisible huge following. Fantastic transformative polices for the many, so badly needed now.

I guess other countries see things differently

In Denmark Jeremy Corbyn has a lot of supporters! We would love to have a Jeremy Corbyn in Denmark!"

[A. Rosenlund]

"We need a Jeremy Corbyn in Ireland too".

[M. Ashcroft]

"We love him in Sweden too, but recognise the need for him to stay in Britain. Therefore, I shall go there instead, to participate in one of the rallies".

[L. Svensson]

#CommonSenseSocialism all the way

We need him in the UK, urgently and desperately.

Well thought of.

Maize, whether you are tired of others expressed opinion or not isn't going to stop them holding it. It's unlikely I will ever to forgive leavers but that doesn't stop them holding the views they do.

It seems to me that none of our leaders are people held in high esteem by a majority in the county. That, surely brings us back to the position of supporting the policies of whichever party appeals to us. I, for one, would be very happy to ignore the politics of personality.

Sorry Maizie, my Kindle changed you name. It seems a very determined machine at times.

Maize, whether you are tired of others expressed opinion or not isn't going to stop them holding it.

I know, GG2 . Just finding it annoyingly hypocritical in that particular instance...

I still feel Corbyn had to say what he said. It isn't, or isn't only, a change in the backstop that is needed to get a parliamentary majority. I think that, even if they came up with something acceptable on that many would not be able to vote for the current Political Declaration as the far-right minority want a Canada Style agreement. I just can't see them getting a majority when that is what they are aiming for.

Eloethan

You make my point for me once again.

Posters want a Unity Government but they also attack, dislike a party that is required to make up the numbers. How can lead to or be seen as a United Government?

Posters have promoted ' tactical voting' and said if that meant voting Lib Dem then so be it. Some have said that is what they have done!

Yet in the same breath they think the Lib Dems are liars, Jo Swinson ' Engages her mouth before she engages her brain', ' She is too immature to hold the leadership post'
but hypocritically think the Lib Dems should be in power as part of a Unity Government, as long as Corbyn is the Prime Minister their principles about what they truly think of the Lib Dems can be what forgotten?

It will be seen by the public, not activists, for what it is a Disunity Party made up of parties who hold no genuine like or respect for each other, will continue to fight like cats in a sack, have no consensus as to what their position is over the EU/UK Referendum Result or whether their position is to Remain or Leave. It is a continuation of the same old, same old political flip flopping but Corbyn would be in power so what the hell, job done.

They only agreement between them is whatever the people vote for we will ignore it if it doesn't suit us.

So staunch Corbynites support Labour and Libs forming a unity government, consider the leader of the Libs to be Tory but that’s ok if it means Corbyn being a caretaker PM ?

Who said anyone "wants" a unity government. It's surely only a means to an end POGs. It will take a lot to pull all the disparate views together and, I imagine, it will last for the shortest time possible if at all. It won't really be a Government of National Unity, rather a Government of Momentary Unity.

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God, there are no staunch Corbynites. The man has had it handed to him on a plate, he is not up to the job.

For the love of God, somebody with some integrity come out of the closet or the broom cupboard or where ever you are hiding.

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I disagree Lessismore, he definitely is.

We need to STOP believing the mainstream media and start looking for our own answers.

I support Labour. Corbyn is their (very popular) leader.

Our country is being sold down the river. We MUST staunch the flow and the Conservatives will never do it.

Sorry, political scene not for me, I'm not making any sense.

I feel he is a disappointment, sadly in this day and age you have to look the part, I think he's too old. But yes the country sure is being sold down the river.

The hate Corbyn threads are really silly.

Criticise all politicians that’s acceptable but to criticise Corbyn means hatred
or Corbyn bashing

The thing is Annie, we get it, you can't stand him. You have given some reasons why. It's done now.

You are clearly an intelligent and capable person, turn your thoughts and energies elsewhere.

No Lessismore , if Corbyn can be praised he can be criticise

WW

"Who said anyone "wants" a unity government."

So you don't want a Unity Government? The thread is about the formation of a Government of Unity which many say they want, what the country needs. So plenty are saying they want a Unity Government.
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" It's surely only a means to an end POGs."

So now you imply you do want a Unity Government and see it as ' a means to an end' but what is the means to an end? What is the End?

The parties involved don't even share a common ground on whether to Remain or Leave, Revoke Article 50 or not, hell the Lib Dems and Greens are stating even if there is another Referendum unless it goes their way, Remain, they will still not agree with the result.

Then there is the question of trust and respect and the opinions of Corbyn supporters even on here is reflective of what you here and read on social media and from politicians themselves.

Tribal politics, hatred of other parties and comments such as those we see directed to Jo Swinson even on this thread are par for the course but it is pure hypocrisy to then vote for the Lib Dems to slag them off afterwards, it is totally Unprincipled.

It is hypocrisy to call for a Government of Unity if you can't even agree with each others policies, don't agree what the end result should be, insult those who are expected to be your partners united, I could go on.

Lessismore Wed 21-Aug-19 15:13:05

The thing is Annie, we get it, you can't stand him. You have given some reasons why. It's done now.
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So Corbyn cannot be criticised but threads regarding other parties and politicians are ' still allowed'.

What is this kindergarten.

My apogies to WW my post was to GG MK3

Kindergarten is much, much nicer.

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