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Corbyn as caretaker

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loopyloo Thu 15-Aug-19 07:08:15

What do people think about that?

GracesGranMK3 Thu 15-Aug-19 11:59:23

Shall I put it very simply for the anti-intellectuals? (Who seem to think they are very clever but show themselves as just the opposite.)

OP: Corbyn as caretaker. What do people think about that?

My answer: I think there are alternatives that could work better.

Callistemon Thu 15-Aug-19 12:17:49

Pantglas grin
I choked on my coffee when I read that.

Beckett Thu 15-Aug-19 12:22:17

GGMK3 So you are saying that anyone who chooses not to read long screeds copied and pasted from newspapers are anti-intellectuals? I will read a long post if it is the views, opinions and in the words of the poster.

Callistemon Thu 15-Aug-19 12:27:15

Corbyn as caretaker?

I cannot see it working, he has no control over his own party, let alone controlling discrete parties.
If we are considering intellectualism, then Corbyn is the wrong choice anyway.

Callistemon Thu 15-Aug-19 12:28:34

Links are a good idea.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 15-Aug-19 12:41:23

Beckett I am not telling anyone what to do. In fact it is just the opposite. I put up what I believed might be of interest to some. Almost immediately some came in to say what seemed to translate as "this is not what you should do. I'm not going to read it." That to me seems arrogant, ignorant and deliberately rude. Had I been rude to them? No I just added a piece which I knew some would be interested in.

Next I get cross-questioned by someone on its relevance. If you don't find it relevant - pass it by. Again I find that a rudeness that can only be excused by purposeful or unintended ignorance.

No one, at any point, said you had to read what I had put on the thread. You could have read it and criticised what it was saying but no, there was both inferred and direct personal criticism. Even you Beckett, had to have a go - not at the content but at the way it is written. An anti-intellectual comment if ever I saw one.

TerriBull Thu 15-Aug-19 12:42:35

POGS absolutely agree about Caroline Lucas desire for "all women cabinet" where's GN very own Misandry Officer when you need him. Unbloody believable that she somehow thinks that is acceptable and it seems she retrospectively realised she'd made a faux pas, in that all the women she wrote to, to be in this cabinet are white so much for diversityblush

Grany Thu 15-Aug-19 12:52:22

With Chuka and Jo, should the LibDems rebrand as the 'Ego-Centrist' Party? Con Dems....seems to fit.

Master stroke by Jeremy Corbyn.

Now we’ll see how really committed the likes of
@CarolineLucas

@joswinson
and Tom Watson are to stopping no deal Brexit.

I think I know the answer to that one..

The pro EU Liberal Democrats have just taken Dr Sarah Wollaston on board.

she voted:

?13x against a right to remain for EU nationals already in living in the UK
?14x against UK membership of the EU

This doctor also voted 15 times to cut benefits for disabled people.

It's project stop Socialism

Labaik Thu 15-Aug-19 13:05:59

Quite frankly stopping socialism is the last of our worries at this moment in time...sad

Riverwalk Thu 15-Aug-19 13:18:03

I can't believe that Caroline Lucas came up with that crackpot idea of all-woman cabinet.

Just what was she thinking?

POGS Thu 15-Aug-19 13:23:37

GGMK3

"Next I get cross-questioned by someone on its relevance. If you don't find it relevant - pass it by. Again I find that a rudeness that can only be excused by purposeful or unintended ignorance."
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I was polite in my question unlike you who call me ignorant. How dare you.

You put up a post using Richard Murphys words, that for your information I read in it's entirity, I could not understand what relevance it had to the OP or what it was trying to say full stop. I wanted to understand if I was missing something and all you can do as usual is post something belittling because the truth of the matter is your post using the words of Richard Murphy were bugger all to do with the price of bread or Corbyn being a Caretaker Leader.

Perhaps if you used your own thoughts and words to explain initially what you were trying to point out in the Richard Murphy text this might not have been questioned. As for being questioned you should expect that unless you think you are above being questioned.

Yes I am answering you back because you go too far sometimes with your supposed superior intellect by implying others do not hold a candle to your intellectual prowess.

jura2 Thu 15-Aug-19 13:26:22

Grany: 'Greens and SNP will back a temporary government to stop no deal Brexit Lib Dems should'

They would too, but NOT with JC at the helm. The vast majority of the country do NOT trust him, even those who admire him as a passionnate activist. It is now clear that he has sat on that bleeding fence for so long- waiting until we are in a dreadful and disastrous position - and at massive risk of being thrown into a diasastrous No Deal - gambling that it would put him at the helm - gambling the whole country's future in the process too.

And McCluskey is pulling all the strings - and everyone can see that.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 15-Aug-19 13:30:12

jura2 I agree with your comments regarding Jeremy Corbyn.

varian Thu 15-Aug-19 13:39:38

In my opinion Corbyn is not seen as trustworthy, so if MPs from other parties were prepared to support him he would have to sign up to strong conditions, the first being to immediately Recvoke Article 50.

Grany Thu 15-Aug-19 13:43:38

FibDems decide to Vote against or Abstain on the proposed VoNC we will know their true allegiance, and it wont be to the UK Electorate.
The LibDems will enable a No Deal Brexit.

Day6 Thu 15-Aug-19 13:45:10

It's probably already been said, but sticking him a broom cupboard with a dustpan and brush sounds like a much safer and more sensible option than letting him anywhere near Number Ten.

Corbyn at the helm? No thanks. Certain ruination of the UK, which the next PM will have to sort out.

Even for the short term this hypocrite could not be trusted. He blows with the wind and ditches his long held principles (like a hatred of the EU) if it suits his personal agenda. Corbyn is a rather pathetic politician who enjoyed doing nothing much except rebel from the back benches for decades.

Day6 Thu 15-Aug-19 13:48:01

so if MPs from other parties were prepared to support him he would have to sign up to strong conditions

Oh, like being a puppet you mean - controlled?

He's done that as Labour leader, to his shame, so he'd certainly do it again and go with what others wanted if it meant power for him.

He is as malleable as they come. Pathetic.

varian Thu 15-Aug-19 13:49:29

I think we can be pretty sure that the Liberal Democrats will definitely vote in favour of a vote of no confidence in Boris Johnson's brexit government. Unlike Corbyn, the Liberal Democrats have always made it clear that brexit would be bad for our country and we should STOP BREXIT.

Incidently, I think most adults would regard getting names deliberately wrong is puerile in the extreme and reflects badly on those who do it.

GagaJo Thu 15-Aug-19 14:00:41

I think that rather than 'not getting it' about JC, the reason these forums are so right wing is the age of the participants. I count among my friends, relatives and acquaintances only 1 right wing supporter. Because I work, this group tends to be younger. The younger age group favour JC.

I'd do anything to avoid a Tory frankly. If that individual was a purple tentacled ? I'd vote for them in favour of those that allowed the bankers to bankrupt this country, and then made the poor pay for it.

Grany Thu 15-Aug-19 14:05:41

Caroline Lucas pleads with Jo Swinton and vote against a Boris Tory no deal

twitter.com/SkyeCitySeries/status/1161977949010223104?s=20

varian Thu 15-Aug-19 14:09:08

Isn't it pathetic how some posters deliberately get names wrong as if to prove some sort of point? The leader of the Liberal Democrats is Jo Swinson. It's not that difficult to spell correctly.

Day6 Thu 15-Aug-19 14:14:00

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Grany Thu 15-Aug-19 14:17:40

The leader Jo Swinson of the Lib Dems who backed all the Tory Austerity polices caused thousands of people's deaths.

Day6 Thu 15-Aug-19 14:25:45

FibDems decide to Vote against or Abstain on the proposed VoNC we will know their true allegiance, and it wont be to the UK Electorate

Exactly Grany.

I do hope they realise that they and Labour have created the Brexit Party. It is going to be massive if we do not leave the EU on Oct 31st.

The UK electorate know damned well that some of our politicians are rowing their own boats. They are telling the electorate they know best and so they'll be ignored. Such arrogance.

One has to hope LibDem and Labour careers are washed up come the next election, because in putting obstacles in the way of Brexit they are angering well over half of the electorate and throwing out the notion of democracy.

Their chickens will come home to roost if there is any justice.

Beckett Thu 15-Aug-19 14:29:55

GGMK3 There was never any "inferred or direct criticism" of you in my post. However, you have directly criticised me as being "anti-intellectual".