Corbyn as caretaker

abjectly poor" Is he? Do you only vote for the hideously rich then Day 6?

Oh dear GGMK3 - Corbyn IS an abjectly poor politician. Perhaps you are unaware that the word poor can be applied in other ways - or are you hung up about wealth? I do hope you haven't been infected with the politics of envy?

Just for information, other ways in which to use the word poor (and most of them apply to Corbyn.)

POOR - of a low or inferior standard or quality

synonyms
substandard, below standard, below par, bad, deficient, defective, faulty, imperfect, inferior, mediocre

Grandad : 'I am a person who believes that the result of the referendum should be upheld. However, I am totally against Britain leaving the EU on a no-deal basis, for that way would be total economic disaster for the United Kingdom.

A General Election is the only way forward out of the largest political and constitutional crisis this nation faced in more than seventy-five years.'

how does that work? How does a GE solve the fact that there is NO new Deal, no better Deal, no cake and eat it Deal. No solution to the backstop. I am sorry, but it just does NOT make any sense. How can we uphold the results (of that fraudulent Ref) and not end up with No Deal - if the Deal you and Corbyn, etc, are aksing for does not and cannot, exist?

We need a Ref on the current situation, and a GE next- not t'other way round, as Peston rightly says.

The blackmailing last minute sheer opportunism of JC is sickening - and we can all see that McCluskey is pulling all the strings.

The blackmailing last minute sheer opportunism of JC is sickening - and we can all see that McCluskey is pulling all the strings

Spot on Jura. We agree.

jura2 Day6, I agree, JC is not fit to lead the LP let alone the UK

I agree with all who say Corbyn is not fit to lead the LP,

Many of you say JC is not fit to lead, well Boris certainly isn't. Thank you Gagajo for agreeing, I am only Barmeyoldbat because that is what my dear gd called me over a disagreement over my house rules.

Well Said Gagajo and Barmeyoldbat

Corbyn is only out for Corbyn. We need a People's Vote and not a general election. A government of national unity yes but led by Ken Clark or Harriet Harman as Caroline Lucas suggested. Brexit is bad for Britain and it has to be stopped.

We've got China/Hong Kong and Iran/everyone on the brink of declaring war and what we certainly don't need is someone who thinks if he offers a cup of tea and a chat to someone, it will cure all the ills in the world.

A General election IS now the only way to resolve the Brexit crisis that now exists.

There is not sufficient time to hold a second referendum prior to Britain leaving the European Union on the 29th of October. Therefore to hold that second referendum this Tory government would have to ask (or be forced to ask) the European Union for a further extension to article fifty.

In the above, do those who fervently believe that Britain must not leave the EU also believe that those of equal opposite fervent belief would just sit back and accept the overruling of the result of the first referendum.

Of course they would not, and if anyone wishes to witness widespread disorder on the streets of Britain, the above is the way to bring that about in my humble opinion.

However, a General Election would allow each participating party to "set out their stall" in regard to their policy on Brexit.

The Liberal Democrats would be able to campaign with the message that should they be elected to government then Brexit in any form would not take place.

The Labour Party would campaign on their policy that should they be elected to government then an attempt would be made to get better terms on sections of the withdrawal agreement. However, whatever the outcome of those negotiations (good or bad) then that would be placed before the British electorate in a further referendum.

The Conservative Party could campaign on the policy they are pursuing at present, which would seem to be demanding a complete withdrawing of the Irish Backstop by the EU, if not Britain would leave the European Union with no agreement whatsoever.

In the above, the choices would be clear, and a month assured to question all and carry out debate. For, I believe there is little alternative to such an election, such is the divide in this nation in regard to Brexit now.

Reports of violence breaking out in workplaces, especially where employers have stated that Brexit could affect employment numbers continue to increase. Overruling the result of the first referendum and instituting a second I believe could well bring that violence on to the streets of Britain.

After Swinson initially sounded a hostile note towards Corbyn’s plan, saying it was “nonsense”, the Lib Dems were widely urged to reconsider and found themselves isolated among anti-no-deal groups!

Labour’s Angela Rayner branded the Lib Dem leader “childish”,
the SNP leader, Nicola Sturgeon, criticised her position as “daft”,
and Caroline Lucas, the Green MP, made a personal appeal for Swinson to rethink her position.

At this rate, with all the in fighting, Boris’ no deal Brexit will sail through on 31st October as the Remainers cannot coalesce behind one strategy or idea.

When I was young I thought Scottish independence would be a great thing.
In the 1980's I lived in an area run by the SNP. They were a disaster. Literally could not run a town council.
Scotland is a tiny country. Our strength lies with being part of the UK. If we ever get independence we will be like Greece but with worse weather and more debt.
Most Scots are mortified by the way the SNP behave in Westminster. In Edinburgh it is a shambles.
Hard to see who can govern though. No wonder kids don't see the point in voting.

Urmstongran, in regard to your post @ 22:42, for once we agree. Just as those MPs that wish for Britain to remain in the European Union could not unite behind the Theresa May withdrawal agreement, so it is with the Jeremy Corbyn appeal for a very temporary government of national unity.

Indeed, those divisions within the remain MPs ranks should they continue, will hand Boris Johnson the no-deal Brexit that he and the ERG group within the Tory party so desperately want for their own self serving benefit.

I'd certainly prefer Corbyn to Johnson - and he has said it would be for a limited period.

Perhaps a cup of tea and a chat is preferable to ramping up hostilities and bringing about yet another disastrous conflict.

He said ‘for a limited period’,

I'm afraid I think that, rather like the leader of the Liberals, your pronouncements are rather over the top Jura. Corbyn has said nothing which could be seen as either blackmailing or opportunistic. He has simply made a suggestion. It strikes me that the opportunistic, and excessively strident comments are coming from elsewhere.

Whatever anyone may thinks of J Corbyn, he is the democratically (and for once that is the correct use of this word) elected leader of the largest opposition party. I wanted to give Jo Swinson a fair wind but, at a point where careful negotiation is required, it seems she has listened to too much of her own propaganda rather than understanding that the first requirement to give the Liberals any hope of achieving a "remain" outcome is to stop a no deal Brexit.

What we need at the moment is diplomatic negotiators not strident name callers. There may well be a person who would lead a cross-party government better than Corbyn could, who could keep enough MPs together and sensitively get us though this but JS needs to be very careful not to over-reach herself and scupper any chances we may have in doing that.

I think that the Lib Dems will come aboard eventually with JC. As for someone saying Corbyn is only out for himself, that must be a joke when we have me me me Boris as PM.

Its interesting times.

Grandad1943 we actually agree on something. Yay!
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I might emigrate rather than see this disgusting man in power

If this should happen - and I sincerely hope it doesn't - who will decide when the "limited period" will come to an end? What will stop JC (or anyone else the Labour party appoint in his place) saying they need to continue as "interim" PM? He may start with a coalition but how long before he appoints fellow LP members in positions of greatest power and influence

I do not think it likely that we will see a coalition but a " confidence and supply" arrangement which could come to an end at any time, if necessary by a vote of no confidence resulting in a GE

He wouldn't be able to do that Wadesnan, if all this did come about, as there would be another vote of no confidence which he would lose, as MP's returned to voting for their own parties.

Those are my thoughts WadesNan Locally we have an elected Labour Mayor, he promised he would run a rainbow council with people from all parties - he has gradually got rid of those in other parties and only councillors in the Labour party are in positions of any influence. At least we know he is term restricted and he can be voted out.

I certainly do not trust Corbyn, if he said today is Friday I would check the calendar