Hear, hear Opal
The majority of Israeli Jews do not want to occupy Gaza.
Recommendations please, for a stopover on the way to Loch Tay
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SubscribeThis is a national emergency. There is no mandate for an undemocratic no deal #Brexit. Reckless Johnson + unelected Cummings want to gag our democracy. We have written to the PM to demand Parliament is recalled. RT if you believe @BorisJohnson should #RecallNow
Tom Brake MP, LibDem brexit spokesman
twitter.com/thomasbrake/status/1162985890672762881?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Hear, hear Opal
PS Think I might save all of these anti-Brexit threads, and re-post them this time next year, when the world hasn't ended, there is still food on the shelves, patients can still get their medications, the economy is sound, we are still trading with other countries, and the sky hasn't fallen in chicken licken!
9 ways No Deal Brexit will cause chaos according to Operation Yellowhammer leak
Leaked No-deal Brexit planning documents from Operation Yellowhammer warn of the likely impact on the UK - not the worst case scenario, and have been likened to 'wartime' in peacetime by the Lib Dems
Anti-Brexit campaigners today claimed fresh warnings over the risks of a no-deal exit showed the “wartime” impact it would have on the UK.
Britain faces shortages of fuel, food and medicine, a three-month meltdown at ports, a hard border with Ireland and rising costs in social care under a no-deal Brexit , official files warn. The Operation Yellowhammer briefing outlines the most likely impacts of leaving without a pact rather than the worst-case scenario.
It came as the Tories’ Brexit civil war deepened as Boris Johnson launched an unprecedented attack on MPs bidding to stop a no-deal departure.
The Prime Minister claimed it was “as plain as a pikestaff that Brussels - or the EU 27 - will simply not compromise as long as they believe there is the faintest possibility that Parliament can block Brexit on 31 October”.
Reports today highlighted latest Whitehall warnings of the possible consequences on various sectors of leaving the EU without a deal.
9 stark warnings on a No Deal Brexit in leaked Operation Yellowhammer documents
1. Fuel - Petrol supplies could be disrupted, two oil refineries could shut and 2,00 workers could lose their jobs.
2. Northern Ireland - Avoiding a hard border is likely to be “unsustainable” with a new frontier all but inevitable.
3. Gibraltar - 15,000 workers who cross the border from Spain every day face delays of more than four hours “at least for a few months”.
4. Ports - Up to 85% of lorries using Channel ports may not be ready for French customs checks.
5. Food - Some supplies of fresh food will fall with hundreds of thousands of customers affected by water supplies.
6. Drugs - Vital medicines could rot on unrefrigerated lorries stuck at ports, with disruption lasting up to six months.
7. Border- Passengers travelling to and from the EU could be subject to more immigration checks.
8. Fishing - Nearly 300 foreign boats could be illegally fishing in UK waters, risking clashes at sea.
9. Care - The “fragile” care industry could be hit by rising inflation and small operators could collapse within three months.
Lib Dem Brexit spokesman Tom Brake said: “Operation Yellowhammer reveals the truth of a no-deal Brexit.
Tom Brake believed no-deal would have "wartime" implications (Image: PA)
“It would have wartime implications, in peacetime, all of them self-inflicted.
“People will be horrified that Boris Johnson and the Conservatives are willing to pursue a plan that will lead to shortages of medicines, food and fuel. This is a far cry from the promises Boris Johnson made in the referendum campaign.
We, in the 'Wish to Depart Brigade' are not oblivious to the problems that no deal Brexit 'may' bring - please don't paint us as being so naive. Bring it on - we're prepared for even a few years of disruption as long as democracy is delivered.
How selfish! You're saying that you're prepared to impose a few years of disruption on the half of the population who don't agree with your aims.
gangy5, in regard to your post @-08:28 today, can you please point me to a link where any leading member of the leave campaign during the referendum campaign informed this nation to be prepared for a "few years of disruption" should Britain withdrawal from the EU.
I seem to recall that on leaving it would be "all immediate benefits" starting with three hundred an fifty million a week extra for the NHS.
Errmm...so it's OK for major decisions to be made while Parliament is in recess and totally unaccountable? Really?
How are you so sure that those who voted leave really understood the implications?
On another thread, one poster claims she knows all about the problems there are likely to be and is happy to impose disruption on the (nearly) half of the population who didn't vote for it. That seems very selfish to me. Why would anybody vote to make themselves worse off? Do we live in a country of masochists?
PS. I think you need to do a little research, so that you really understand the word "democracy". It's not just a soundbite to be shouted at anybody who disagrees with you.
PPS. Sorry, it was this thread.
So why didn't VoteLeave mention all this before the referendum, rather than plastering that stupid promise about the NHS on the side of a bus? I don't suppose it was anything to do with trying to hoodwink people?
The Labour Party is now supporting calls for Parliament to be recalled earlier than scheduled from its summer recess.
Shadow chancellor John McDonnell told the BBC that Jeremy Corbyn will meet other British political leaders next week to discuss tactics to prevent a no-deal Brexit.
John McDonnell then called for the House of Commons to be recalled "in the next few days" to allow MPs to debate the prospect of a no-deal.
However, Parliament could only be reconvened if the government put such a request to the Speaker John Bercow it would seem.
I feel that with the release of the Yellowhammer documents yesterday the early recall of Parliament will be the last thing this shambles of a government would want.
Link to further information on the Labour Party position in regard to the recall of Parliament can be found here:-
BBC News - Jeremy Corbyn: General election will stop Brexit 'crisis'
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49391297
A little bird has told me that all senior civil servants have had leave cancelled, which seems a bit rich as the "Yellowhammer deniers" are claiming that it was civil servants being negative and nothing to do with lack of being prepared by the government. It's downright disgraceful that Parliament is in recess in the current crisis.
If the referendum result had been 52% to remain then the Leavers would have been told to just shut up and suck it up. I rest my case.
A press release from the Labour Party tells us that-
"Jeremy Corbyn will promise to do “everything necessary to stop a disastrous no-deal Brexit” as he delivers a speech on Monday in the key marginal seat of Corby in the east Midlands as speculation grows about an election in the coming weeks."
Everything to stop a no-deal brexit? Presumably that means he would support a temporary Government of National Unity led by someone other than himself?
You have no case to rest, quizqueen.
Democracy includes the right to oppose. When most of our Legislature is convinced that the Executive is about to cause irreparable harm to the country they have every right to oppose it and try to stop the harm.
Perhaps someone can advise on a unity government.
Question being, If a motion of no confidence in the government is carried by the House of Commons, the normal procedure has been for the Prime Minister (in this case Boris Johnson) to attend an audience with the Queen and resign the government.
I am not sure, but is it not for the Queen to then decide who she will call to the Palace and make a request to that person to try and form a government?
I understand that the Queen would ask if there is anyone who can command a majority of MPs. That is the test.
It is obvious that Corbyn is extremely unlikely to be able to do that, but if he were to lend support to someone like Harriet Harman or Ken Clarke, it would be quite possible for a GNU to happen.
varian Quote [ I understand that the Queen would ask if there is anyone who can command a majority of MPs. That is the test.] End Quote.
So, would it be the case, in your opinion, that the Queen would call Jeremy Corbyn to the Palace as leader of the opposition, and request him to try and form a Government?
It would need Corbyn to inform the Queen that he felt he could not, and then recommend to the Monarch who he felt may be able to command a majority in the House of Commons.
Is that your thoughts varian?
I doubt very much whether the Queen would want to be involved that much. Asking whether an individual could command a majority is, so I understand, a formality.
I guess if somebody turned up and claimed (s)he could form a government and Johnson turned up and objected, there might be a problem!
I understand that the new candidate for PM would have to demonstrate that he or she had the support of the majority of MPs.
Corbyn could of course try to do that, but would almost certainly fail.
Then someone else could try to garner enough support and if they were successful, HM would be advised to invite them to form a government.
If no-one could demonstrate that they had sufficient support there would have to be a general election.
Tory Brexiteer MP Andrew Bridgen has said that MPs do not need to be recalled because the government has things under control, and he has a holiday planned for the last two weeks of recess.
www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/andrew-bridgen-mp-on-recalling-mps-to-parliament-1-6223662
I’m glad somebody thinks things are under control
I wish I shared his confidence
I read in one of the newspapers I read (can’t remember which one now, it was a few days ago) that many in the Civil Service are working through the summer. As Boris seems to be doing ... he’s off to see Merkel & Macron next week and hasn’t exactly been lying on a beach these last few weeks.
73 days to Brexit.
meeting with Merkel and Macron, to try to convince them of the need to negotiate another deal minus the backstop
It ain’t going to happen. He knows that, but he has to be seen trying
So, whose fault is that? It's certainly not Boris's. If the big players in the EU won't negotiate, what is the UK supposed to do? Fold?
The last dreadful WA tying us to Brussels was rejected by the HOC, a cross party decision, and rightly so.
You might like to think Boris is at fault but it takes the EU to put something on the table that is acceptable to us. Ask yourself, what business would cave in to a poor, one-sided agreement that achieves nothing?
Stand up to the EU Boris! More than half of the UK population expects nothing less.
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