Jeffrey Epstein

Epstein is dead and I have no feelings at all about that. Andrew should have chosen his friends more carefully, after Epstein was convicted for sex crime he should have stayed away. As for being a house guest when young girls were coming and going and socializing, he knew EXACTLY what was going on.

It would have been impossible for anyone staying in one of Epstein's homes not to have known what was going on. He didn't hide his proclivities. I find it impossible not to conclude that Andrew maintained his friendship because he didn't see Epstein's behaviour as a problem. The same has to be said about his other rich n famous guests. No wonder the conspiracy theories about his death are growing. He seems to have been the only person with nothing to gain by his death

How can you be ambivalent about paedophilia and sex trafficking of young girls chewbacca

I wonder how many threads there would have been if it was Harry and Meghan ? ?

I still remember David Kelly, the investigator who told Tony Blair and Bush there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
When asked what would happen if Iraq were invaded, replied, "I will probably be found dead in the woods."

And he was.
None of his family believe it was suicide.

Attending the Church service was a private matter , the Queen is on holiday

The news on line this morning has more revelations/allegations about Andrew and Sarah Ferguson's links with Epstein. Evidently, he paid a large sum of money of SF's debts. He was Andrew's guest at a couple of big RF dinners/shooting parties.
BlueBelle - excellent point at 08.04 this morning.

HM - I’ll just go to church this morning sitting with Andrew next to me in the car as I do every time he’s staying at Balmoral. Oh and please ensure there’s a good press turnout.

The press are always at that part of the road on Sunday when
the Queen is at balmoral

Eloethan what astonished me was the judge who ordered Andrew's name to be struck from the record as mention of him in connection with all this was impertinent!

impertinent ??
Why? What a strange term to use - would that be used about anyone else at all?

Bluebelle I don't think that that is what Chewbacca said at all! To misinterpret the post in that way is strange and rather shocking.

I read it that she (or he) said she really could not care less about the RF in general but that Andrew in particular makes her skin crawl ie she thinks Andrew extremely unsavoury.

How can you be ambivalent about paedophilia and sex trafficking of young girls chewbacca

Please read my post again BlueBelle. I'm fairly sure I said that I was ambivalent about the rf. I'm also fairly sure I never mentioned paedophilia or sexual trafficking. As for Meghan and Harry. .... I'm as ambivalent about them as I am about the rest of the rf. although I'm unclear as to what they have to do with the subject

Strange what some people can extrapolate from a post isn't it Callistemon?

You would be within your rights to ask for that post to be deleted Chewbacca

It is a nasty post.

Bluebelle you were so wrong to say that about Chewbacca,

Nah I'll let the post stand Callistemon and let others judge it, and its author.

The news on line this morning has more revelations/allegations about Andrew and Sarah Ferguson's links with Epstein

That does not surprise me at all - I always thought the Sarah/Andrew relationship was an odd one.

I may be wrong but my impression was that BlueBelle misread and misunderstood Chewbacca's comment about ambivalence.
What a mucky mess it all is and I agree with the negative comments about Prince Andrew and Sarah F. (doesn't mean I've hardened in my thoughts about the other 'royal couple' in the news currently)

Why the difference?n, when Andrew and Sarah gave their engagement interview it was so similar to the Harry and Megan interview. Sarah did quite a lot of the talking

What do you mean Anniebach?

In the depths of my ageing memory, I remember a report about Prince Andrew 'knocking on the door' of Epstein's house and when the door was opened he asked, 'Are there any chicks here?'

It was a long time ago but it was a bone fide report.

Let’s not pretend that everything hrh does is not orchestrated . Some press secretary somewhere will tell/ advise her who she should be seen with/ where / when. Delete as appropriate .

Personally I think there’re all a bunch of creeps, who, If they weren’t so bloody rich (on tax payers money) and revered by their worshippers , would’ve been perfect candidates for Jeremy Kyle .

The rf throughout history have not changed one little bit .

I read a 'comedy' comment recently which said, ' We may never find out who committed J.E.'s suicide.'

My DH has a theory that JE did not commit suicide at all, it was all a set up. In reality he is really driving around space in Elon Musk's Tesla road car with his "little black book in the glove box".

Strangely enough I think I heard that prince andrew was last seen at NASA taking a crash course in becoming an astronaut

gillybob - Bluddy Brilliant ????

I thought so too GrannyGravy even if I say so myself