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So he’s done it?

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MawB Wed 28-Aug-19 09:31:48

The end of hopes of stopping a no deal Brexit?
Just announced.
The Queen will be asked by the government to suspend Parliament days after MPs return to work - and a matter of weeks before the Brexit deadline.
The BBC's political editor, Laura Kuenssberg, says it will make way for Boris Johnson's new administration to hold a Queen's Speech - laying out the government's future plans - on 14 October
But it means MPs are unlikely to have time to pass any laws that could stop the prime minister taking the UK out of the EU without a deal on 31 October.
A No 10 source said: "It's time a new government and new PM set out a plan for the country after we leave the EU
The idea of shutting down Parliament - known as prorogation - has caused controversy, with critics saying it would stop MPs being able to play their democratic part in the Brexit process.

Joelsnan Wed 28-Aug-19 21:18:45

Huge spontaneous demonstrations all over the Kingdom

Remainers who have confounded democracy for three years demonstrating about confounding democracy? If it wasn’t so dangerous it would be laughable.

Day6 Wed 28-Aug-19 21:19:15

What's the betting on the usual suspects Geldof, Sting, Bono, et al tweeting their outrage before long? grin

It's all so predictable.

Day6 Wed 28-Aug-19 21:20:24

Ha ha ha! In a nut-shell! Well said Joelsnan

jura2 Wed 28-Aug-19 21:22:03

Geldof, Grandt, Sting, Bono et al oh yes, they have changed their mind, totally:

www.facebook.com/PeterStefanovicJuniorDoctors/videos/453520691911938/

Opal Wed 28-Aug-19 21:24:32

Well said Joelsnan - oh the irony! grin

GrannyGravy13 Wed 28-Aug-19 21:26:07

This current session of parliament is the longest for nearly 400 hundred years.

Theresa May didn’t have a “a Queens Speech” because she thought she might lose the subsequent vote.

Jeremy Corbyn has repeatedly asked for a Queens Speech, now he has got his wish he is still complaining ?

I have asked in several posts what do you think could get through Parliament in the 3 missed days that hasn’t happened in the last 3 years?

Grandad1943 Wed 28-Aug-19 21:31:09

Not one Brexiteer wishes to address the supply chain problems, the loss of jobs and the huge problems that will bring to the ederly, the young and the most vulnerable in our country due to Johnsons planned actions should he sucseed

In short they do not care in pursuit of what even they do not know.

Totally selfish in means and attitude.

POGS Wed 28-Aug-19 21:32:08

WW

Hugh Grant
@HackedOffHugh
· 4h
"You will not fuck with my children’s future. You will not destroy the freedoms my grandfather fought two world wars to defend. Fuck off you over-promoted rubber bath toy. Britain is revolted by you and you little gang of masturbatory prefects. "
---

Hmm

I felt like that over Hacked Off. ' Masterbatory Prefects', sounds like his eduction left a mark.

lemongrove Wed 28-Aug-19 21:36:00

? POGS

Firecracker123 Wed 28-Aug-19 21:39:12

Hugh's certainly hacked off.

Don't think I'll be watching him in Love Actually again lol.

Day6 Wed 28-Aug-19 22:07:06

Hugh Grant's outraged tweet could backfire on him. His concern for his children sounds rather feeble in this light. hmm

This from the Independent.

Consider, by contrast, the actor Hugh Grant. Grant, aged 51, and a veteran of the amiable silly-ass stereotype of Englishman in his film roles (a tradition he shared with Hugh Laurie as Bertie Wooster, both following in the footsteps of Ian Carmichael), has openly acknowledged fathering a child after a brief relationship with a Chinese actress, Tinglan Hong

Grant describes the relationship as a "fleeting rom-ance", though obviously not fleeting enough for him to have had recourse to a condom

Moralisers have condemned Grant as irresponsible and sleazy. "While, in the past," thundered Amanda Platell, who was once spin-doctor to Britain's foreign secretary William Hague, "celebrity publicists would have contrived to concoct a major cover-up if a client had a child born out of wedlock, or would have issued a perfunctory comment confirming the child's parentage, the sheer insouciance of Grant's statement suggests he thinks there is nothing wrong with having a child in this way

Imagine how Grant's daughter will feel when she discovers that she was the issue of a 'fleeting romance'

www.independent.ie/lifestyle/moralisers-have-condemned-hugh-grant-as-irresponsible-at-least-he-has-agreed-to-his-child-being-born-26791429.html

petra Wed 28-Aug-19 22:15:33

Hugh Grant
I'm sure there are thousands who think he's a tosser.

GracesGranMK3 Wed 28-Aug-19 23:00:17

Jolyon Maugham on Twitter: "The government should be careful what it wishes for: a suspension that denies Parliament the opportunity to approve No Deal could lead to a Court ordering the Government to revoke Article 50."

GabriellaG54 Thu 29-Aug-19 00:41:30

Good on yer Boris. ????

Labaik Thu 29-Aug-19 02:14:23

Are we forgetting Johnson's concern for his children...? [or lack of it...]

crystaltipps Thu 29-Aug-19 06:38:56

Which slebs support Boris though? Jim Davidson? That woman from Bucks Fizz?

GrannyGravy13 Thu 29-Aug-19 07:32:42

Just pulled this off of Government Website......shows previous Parliament Closures.

suziewoozie Thu 29-Aug-19 07:45:27

GG you’re better than that . Context is everything.

Urmstongran Thu 29-Aug-19 08:22:56

410 constituencies voted LEAVE 240 REMAIN.

How can anyone call this undemocratic is beyond me! At last a Leader actually doing what the MAJORITY voted for.

I seem to remember Thatcher gaining instant respect for tackling difficult subjects decisively, didn't blink over the Falklands, handbagged the EU for a rebate and put the narcissist Scargill back in his box.

You have to accept that you can't please everybody, something May could never understand!

GrannyGravy13 Thu 29-Aug-19 08:37:20

suziewoozie, Oh I agree context is important, see my post of 21.26.07 last night.

MaizieD Thu 29-Aug-19 08:54:23

Thatcher did not shut down Parliament to impose her will on the country. Using her as an 'example' just demonstrates ignorance of how our constitution is meant to work.
Despite all the attempts to justify this action by GG13 bravely repeating the Dictator's spin this is an abnormal action on the part of the government. It is stretching convention way past its normal operation. It is an attempt to override sovereign parliament by the Executive. It's analogous to Charles 1st's attempt to shut down parliament. That ended badly...

What it isn't is an attempt to exercise the 'democratic' choice of 17.4 million people who, as an entity, don't even exist any more. At least a million of them are now dead and an unknown number have changed their minds.

growstuff Thu 29-Aug-19 09:02:32

I'm not even sure it's to do with leaving the EU any more. They won't want to show their hand at the start, so the Queen's Speech might seem quite upbeat, but we're about to see a very right wing agenda, which will not even have the EU to stop it.

You can see that with the lies which have already been told about cash boosts for the NHS and education. The NHS funding isn't new money and education cash involves a new funding formulas, which transfers money to the better off areas (Tory voting) from the more deprived and special needs.

Johnson has already said he's going to cut tax for the rich.

The only people who will benefit are the very rich and/or those who wish to exploit others.

growstuff Thu 29-Aug-19 09:04:07

It doesn't matter how many constituencies voted leave/remain, because it was a direct referendum and that's not how votes were counted? Unfortunately, it's affected the behaviour of MPs. Why do you come up with irrelevant claptrap?

lemongrove Thu 29-Aug-19 09:05:35

Nice try MaizieD but what GG13 showed in the timetable
From Westminster wasn’t ‘brave’ simply realistic.....most of the time is being taken up by conferences, you can’t argue with that. The extra days that Parliament now cannot sit are exactly that...days. It may be an unusual step to take ( there are precedents though) but unusual times call for that!
We may actually get somewhere now which will benefit the UK. Certainly,the EU will now take it seriously.

Urmstongran Thu 29-Aug-19 09:07:19

Disingenuous MaizieD to say At least a million of them are now dead and an unknown number have changed their mind

Why DO Remainers blithely assume that those who have died since voting in the referendum all voted Leave?

Bizarre.

And some up & coming young (those who are politically minded) will vote Leave - the young are NOT all Remainers! I’ve listened to them on TV forums.