So he’s done it?

MaizieD, it is useless trying to explain anything rational to leavers for they are not rational people. I drew that conclusion last evening, for when challenged not one would express any concern for the damage a no deal Brexit could do to the ederly, the young, the sick and the most vulnerable in our society.

They live in hope that the supply chain will not be affected despite the governments own HammerHaead documents stating what the effect will be.

Maizie and growstuff I suppose the next book to be opened will be on the date he will call a GE?

Also, if the opposition group start any legislation next week but don't complete it, it will fall with prorogation, so I wouldn't be surprised if nothing happens other than in the courts.

Why DO Remainers blithely assume that those who have died since voting in the referendum all voted Leave

The figure for those who have died since the referendum is actually more than 2 million. So I split it roughly in half to reflect the proportions of the actual vote. I'm not making the assumption you think I am, Ug.

GGMK3, If and when Boris Johnson calls an election, surely it will please the opposition parties?

My money is on November/early December, but it depends what the polls are looking like - possibly earlier if the Tories continue to maintain a lead.

Grandad From a purely personal point of view, I'm not hugely bothered by supply chain issues. I'm not responsible for anybody else and I can cope with just about everything life throws at me. That doesn't mean I'm not concerned about the hauliers and others who will almost certainly go bankrupt and those whose businesses will be affected in the slightly longer term. In the end, the whole country will be affected.

What really bothers me is that the cultural civil war which will persist for years, if not decades. An unpleasant underbelly of society has been exposed.

Further to my above post, it would seem that leavers care nothing for the employment security of hundreds of thousands who work in manufacturing and its supply-side industry. To leavers the loss of those jobs will be worth it in their search for "A No Dea Brexit Utopia" but where that is to be found not one Brexiteer can explain to anyone, for they do not know themselves.

I drew that conclusion last evening, for when challenged not one would express any concern for the damage a no deal Brexit could do to the ederly, the young, the sick and the most vulnerable in our society

Because they don't give a

I'm alright Jack/there is no such thing as society/regain control.....it's all the same mantra.

The opinion polls show the tougher Boris gets with EU the higher his ratings go. He was on 33%, and Labour 21% last week. It will be interesting indeed to see his ratings after this contentious action. He has to be tough to win back support from Conservative voters who have switched support to Brexit Party. He is a good strategist, and about two moves ahead of squabbling remainers.

Less is more, i believe that the Growmore post @-9:24 today states everything in regard to the attitudes of leavers

Anyway, i am off to work. today that includes a visit to a huge sewage treatment plant here in the west country. Seems very apt in view of all the current news and some views. ?

Grandad the Yellowhammer documents were drawn up when May still in charge and Hammind blockjng nk deal planning funds. Boris has moved no deal pkanning on a huge amount since then as Javid gave opened purse strings and made free with no deal planning money. Dept for Health has announced they are ready.

Sorry at should read Lessismore above, not less is more. Voice recognition again.

You are all overreacting, get a grip.

He’s not dragging us out of the EU. A majority of the electorate voted to leave and didn’t specify a mechanism. The anti democrats are the remainers both in and outside Parliament who have sought to overturn the result of the referendum since it was announced . Remainers seem to feel they have a monopoly on right and only things they agree with can be considered democratic . I totally support Boris Johnson and suspect millions of people who have sat at home without whinging for the last three years watching the shenanigans of the remainers dontoo. You may not like it but it is democracy at work suck it up

Grandad , either is acceptable.

Don't land in the

Fantastic news
At last the result of a democratic referendum will be honoured

About time someone showed leadership

Growstuff, the education bit is to make a more fairer system. At the moment schools in London get a lot more per pupil than other schools around the country. Teachers have been lobbying for this for years. I was a teacher for many years. Boris has said every pupil irrespective of where they live should receive same education funding. Why do you think pupils in London are more important than children in rest of country? London schools will still receive a small amount more but only enough to cover extra salary for London weightings. Headteachers all over ciuntry are in favour oc this legislation. I spoke to 3 heads shortly after Boris announced it and they said it had been a ling time coming.

I had to wade through a lot of responses before I came across some sensible ones. People, who are asking "Where is the democracy in this?" in reference to Boris Johnson's call to prorogue parliament, should ask themselves "Where has democracy been for the last 3+ years?" since the overwhelming result of the EU referendum was announced

Why does it still surprise me that remainers think they are so superior , always resort to insults and get so nasty.

Democracy at last. Should have happened three years ago.

Hydrangealady and Annecan I couldn't agree with you more. If leaving the EU was that disasterous why were we offered to vote to stay or leave in the first place and having voted to leave why isn't that being honoured? That is democracy. The BBC have been putting out scare stories - false news that some people have been either taken in by or using for their own undemocratic purposes. Good on you Boris - you are acting for the people. Parliament is a disgrace.

I was disappointed in the role of our head of state. If her only function is to rubber stamp the PM then what's the point?

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/269157
If you are outraged please sign this petiton. It is a petiton to Parliament against proroguing parliament - whch got to over a million signatures in less than a day.
I cannot remember being so angry about any action by a politician - and this morning on the Today programme Jacob Rees Mogg was talking about 'confected' anger. They are beyond reach of reason or honesty - of course this is a ruse to get through his almost certainly NO DEAL Brexit without allowing our elected representatives to debate or intervene in the process. I truly fear for democracy in our country now.
And they tout the figure of 17 million who voted for Brexit - that was only 37% of the electorate! and the vote was meant to be advisory only - we are a parliamentary representative democracy. Or we were - now we are becoming the domain of a demagogue. I may well join a march.

There was a referendum. We were told that Parliament would abide by the result. Ever since. there have been factions plotting and scaremongering to avoid leaving the EU at all costs, thus denying the will of the people. If that's democracy, I'll eat my hat.
Go Boris!

Applegran
It certainly was not advisory. Reread the government leaflet explaining the decision as a once in a lifetime decision