Boris has lost the vote!

Travelasfar...we were glued to it all day till the final vote, and expecting the same today!
You need the parliament channel. Freeview 232;
Freesat 201; Sky 504; Virgin 605.
Think it starts at 2.30.
Weirdly compulsive!

Just give us what the country voted for even if it means no deal .

I remember a time not so very long ago when politicians represented the people who voted for them and there were actually some decent, upstanding members of parliament who deserved the right honourable title. Now they are all career politicians who are in it for themselves. It doesn't matter which party they are in, they're all as bad as each other. And as for Boris Trump, well words fail me. What a mess.

I was born in a free country and I had hoped to die in a free country, but it's looking less and less likely. What has happened to democracy?

Ask Boris Johnson and puppet master Cummings.

This is no longer about the country but people's inflated egos . Shame on parliament . I think whole lot need throwing out and starting again . Then get people in who want to improve Britain , rather than fight amongst themselves like a load of school kids . Then spitting your dummy out when you don't get your own way . Britain has voted to leave get on with it .

I originally come from the UK but now live in Dublin, so am interested from both the British & EU perspective.
Originally the EU suggested a backstop for NI only but the UK argued that it should apply to the whole UK (to satisfy the DUP & retain the Tory majority)! The EU conceded this.
Now the UK demands the backstop be dropped.
I think the best thing for all of us, NI, R of I & UK, would be to revert to the original plan, backstop for NI only. Then the UK would have it's withdrawal agreement & both Irish economies would be saved.
Do any of you agree?

Bercow is playing a blinder!

Isn’t he just! It’s worth watching the goings on in Parliament to hear his humour.

They are all playing with out future. Whether you like it or not this country voted to leave the EU. Where is democracy? Who envisaged this travesty over three years later? I despair - and I am giving up watching, listening to or talking about the b****y subject as I can't take any more.

This is no longer about the country but people's inflated egos

Never a truer word spoken Buster, you've summed up the new cabinet perfectly.

So much for the referendum, why won't they do what the people voted for LEAVE!!!

Can you not read between the lines, it’s there way of prolonging it we know labour and Lib Dem’s don’t want to leave and any of the other parties. This is there way of trying to remain I am sure of it.
We voted to remain my dh and I but we lost the referendum so we are supposed to be a democracy and we must leave. They are just stalling and stalling.

I'm still backing Boris. He's the only one to get us out of the EU.

Bercow should be totally non biased, he should be 'playing blinders '
As for the referendum being advisory, that's as may be, so why didn't MP's refuse that advice?!! In signing article 50, they not only agreed the advice, but potentially voted for no deal, so they can hardly complain when faced with what they themselves put into law, why on earth do that in the first place? Perhaps they didn't understand what they were voting for?! If they didn't, how earth do they suppose that we do? and if they think we don't, then why ask in the first place. What complete fools they all are!

shouldn't, not should!

We don't know that Labour doesn't want to leave. We do know that Corbyn has been anti-EU all his life. We also know that the majority of Labour constituencies voted to leave BUT the majority of Labour voters voted to remain, which is why Labour has been sitting on the fence.

Grannycool, Please could you explain how that would work? I must admit I hadn't heard of a NI only backstop, so I'm curious.

Interesting, grannycool It seems like a good solution. NI, like Scotland, voted to remain -- which backstop would the majority of NI voters support? It might depend on whether they do more trade with Ireland/Europe, or with the rest of the UK...

Alltyryngirl-- Boris is certainly reliable, can't deny that. You can be sure he'll do the opposite of what he said he'd do last week.

From what I understand, it's a bit more complicated than that. The people in NI who would lose out most are the farmers living near the border. Many of them have RoI passports and are probably inclined towards Republicanism. We know that there are still rumblings of the Troubles below the surface, so it could inflame tensions. From what I understand, that's the biggest danger.

What a farce the whole situation is!

You’ve got remainers demonstrating and shouting for democracy but blow the democratic rights of the majority who voted to leave.

You’ve got so called ‘people’s representatives’, MPs, shouting that Parliament shouldn’t have been prorogued as it cuts the time for debate by a few weeks when they’ve had more than three years and achieved nothing! Another extension will achieve nothing different, just be three months further down the line and still deadlocked.

As far as I can see Boris, love him or hate him, seems to be the only one willing to stand up to the EU and take forward what the country voted for.

Parliament needs all the self serving, ‘think of themselves first and damn the good of the country’ people clearing out and people who will truly represent what a democratic country votes for put in their place. I am sick and tired of the whole non compromising lot of them!

To those of you who claim 'we' and 'Britain' voted to leave... You just cannot keep on and on saying that and talking about 'the will of the people' unless you tell us specifically what all you who voted to leave mean by it? There were leavers opposing the government yesterday, and obviously leavers on the side of the government. Which leave do you want, and what makes you think yours is the correct 'leave'. It was never such a simplistic question as the referendum asked. This was never going to be straightforward and to now say 'just get on with it' is, with respect, extremely simplistic. Yes, parliament has had 3 years. It's going to take longer. (I understand that in Switzerland they had several referenda before women were finally given the right to vote.) It may take another one or even two referenda here for us to decide -- and why not. Let the government come up with a proposal and then let us vote on it. And let us have a bit more intelligent discussion about the 'backstop' and what it means (thank you, grannycool -- more discussion please!) -- so many people (including myself) don't completely understand what it is and what it will do and when it will or will not do it.

Remind me when the country specifically voted for a disastrous no deal, hardest of hard options, Brexit?

Unfortunately the ballot paper only had two options,

Remain in the EU

Leave the EU

Deal or no deal were not up for voting on!!

Heather51, this is not a farce. This is decision-making in a democracy.

You say Boris is standing up to the EU?????? Boris is not even negotiating with the EU -- and that's according to someone writing in the Telegraph!

Yes, we are deadlocked and it is going to take time to find a solution. But Boris' (or more likely Dominic Cummings') smash and grab approach is -- I hope very much -- going to backfire.