Boris has lost the vote!

allule many thanks for the info. Will try to get time this afternoon to watch, i find it very interesting and love watching the antics.

wouldbegran - precisely.

Good points, growstuff -- it's not just about trade and the economy. It is going to take a very creative solution to satisfy the people of NI, in terms of national identity AND in terms of trade. Is it naive to wish if only the NI Assembly were back up and running that they might come up with the compromise that's needed?

Mamar2.
I for one am thankful that the likes of this present lot, who ever what ever they represent, around in 1939.Laughing stock would have been the least of our worries.

But the memes and satires on his behaviour on Twitter were hilarious...they would have pricked the gas out of his self-satisfied bubble.

PMQs today. Corbyn was outstanding but the star must go to Tanmamjeet Singh Dhesi who asked a question concerning Tory Islamaphobia.

By voting in a racist and liar the Tories have left themselves wide open to this sort of accusation.

What a truly bizarre statement from McDonnell today, answering Javid’s statement on future spending.
Of course, the wind has been taken out of his sails as he hoped the Conservatives wouldn’t pay out to public servants or anyone else, but even so!
Maybe he thought he was addressing a Momentum rally and not the HOC.

The LP have more than enough on their plate throwing off accusations of antisemitism I would have thought.

Twice the chancellor was brought to order by Mr Speaker for the poor presentation of his statement.

Cummings will be spitting tacks as he wrote it.

This is frightening. We don’t hear much about the EU. I read Germany is about to go into recession and we all know the state of Italian and Greek finances. If we don’t leave we will be propping them up when we have a failing health service, social care in crisis etc: etc:

It seems obvious that the EU will want a deal, but at the moment why would they? I wonder whether there is a personal vested interested in MPs wanting to stay in the EU.
They say we did not know what we were voting for, I voted remain, but now I know more about the EU think we should leave whilst we have the opportunity.

Whatever sort of people is Johnson surrounding himself?

Reports by numerous witnesses that Cummings smelling of alcohol shouted at Corbyn in a public area in the HoC.

Well, said Ellepammar

Was Corbyn scared??

Growstuff and Wouldbegran, thank you for your replies.
The originally discussed backstop applied to NI only so there would be no hard border in Ireland, so no trade tattoos, extra costs for farmers, etc. NI would effectively stay in the Customs Union, whilst the rest of the UK would leave it. Goods entering &leaving the island of Ireland (N&S) would be checked at ports only, not at the border, and there would be no tariffs on the island . At the moment there are no checks, as agreed in the Good Friday Agreement between UK and Ireland N&S. If they reverted to that, the checks would be at the ports or, as the DUP say, there would be an economic( not political border). The original was changed so the whole UK including NI would be the same, to get the DUP to support the Cons Party.

The majority of people in NI, including many unionists, want the NI only backstop and the border kept open. My own relatives in the north are unionists but they want this too. While the DUP are the biggest party, only 30 per cent of N I people want an economic border on the island, according to all recent surveys.

Tarriffs, not tattoos! Silly phone!

Economic, not political, border down the Irish sea.

Does it really make any difference? Glad as I am to see Boris Johnson get a slap in the face, I still do not see any liklihood of anyone finding a way out of the mess they have landed in.

Unless Parliament accepts the deal they have refused three times already, neither a general election nor a new exit date will make the slightest bit of difference.

As far as I am aware the last recession was a world recession caused by the "Bankers"
Labour were the government at the time but no way were they the cause.Perhaps should have been more aware of what might be coming but certainly not responsible as Conservatives like to claim.
If this extremely right wing front bench get elected with Dominic Cummings in the background we will certainly live to regret it.

The referendum meant LEAVE ,why are they going against that, where has democracy gone to.

There will be yet another election. Conservatives are likely to win .... people won’t just be voting with Brexit in mind .... but keeping Corbyn out! Boris isn’t as bumbling as he may appear.

Churchill’s grandson looks visibly upset.

What a ghastly government this is.

nanny41 the vote last night was not about whether we leave or we do not leave, it was to try and stop, in law, Johnson and the ERG from forcing a no deal Brexit, the one that nobody voted for despite what they tell you, because it was not an option on the ballot paper. The people who went against Johnson were a mixture of remainers and leavers, the one thing they had in common was not wanting to leave without a deal.

What’s being Churchill’s grandson got to do with it?
Churchill was rightly hated by many during his political career, and he made many bumbling mistakes.
Soames obviously thinks himself above democracy as do many of the other old hangers on that have been in parliament too long.

Nanny41 the vote was to stop us leaving with no deal not to stop us leaving ???

Joelsnan it is just ironic that Johnson, who likes to think of himself as a Churchillian figure has now fired his hero's grandson. Not too keen on either Churchill or Soames myself, but it does show just how out of control Johnson is now.