Rees Mogg lying down.

Oh come on - those seats are vile and are built for short people. And at the moment they are D* near living in there. It was just a bit of journo malice.

That isn't really the point. The fact is he is an arrogant man acting in an arrogant way.

What on Earth has Corbyn got to do with Rees Mogg's contempt of parliament

Because he displays equal contempt and rudeness when he sits chatting and passing notes like s silly schoolboy whenever opposition is speaking.

They are all disrespectful, immature and downright rude - both sides.

It’s about time we put an end to this cheering leering culture and got a parliament who could conduct themselves as adult professionals do in pretty much all other walks of life.
Iur parliamentary debates are a national embarrassment left, right and middle.

Well said! Some people will use any outlet they can to spread lies and hate.

Sandelf ,if that is the case why weren't more people lounging about.? I did read in the Times that the number of "rebels" increased on Tuesday after R-Mogg's speech."At the start of the debate we had 19 confirmed confirmed supporters. By the time Jacob had sat down we were up to 21
Attitude does matter.

Maybe JRM was fed up of hearing the same old drivel we've heard for 3 years from the remainers, sulky boys and girls going on and on forever because they lost a vote.Maybe he thought wake me up when you've got something new to say. They will do anything to keep us in Europe,they lost the vote ,get over it. I voted to stay but it didn't go my way so I accepted it and moved on.It might be disrespect but the remainers have lost lots of people's respect because they won't accept defeat.Without "No Deal"on the table we lose a bargaining chip,it doesn't mean we'll use it.

Grannygrav y? i do like the reference to the flowers

Spookygran - your response somewhat sneering too. Nothing “sulky” about trying to ensure a stable transition or protect the voice of Parliament. I thought some of the speeches were excellent, on all sides, and reflect where people are now. And I think BJ and Cummings are playing a clever game but sacking so many established and good politicians may backfire on them, and closing parliament so that carefully worked on new laws are now lost, not able to have time in this session, is so frustrating for many MPs.

I can see I am the only lifelong Conservative here. You lot really hate so well. I had no idea so many old women were so left wing. I guess that Professor Ted Wragg succeeded with his left wing ideas spread in teacher training in the 70s.
If you are typical of the elderly in UK then Mr Corbyn and Mr McDonnell should romp in when the election takes place. I have no second home or no private garden they can tax. I am not a landlord renting property which any tenant can force me to sell to them, but I do own my own flat in London which will allow a labour govt. to tax the hell out of it when I die. Obviously, the vast majority of you support Marxism even though there is no democratic state where it has ever worked but we shall see and in the meantime I shall enjoy Mr Rees Moggx broadcasts on LBC and having spent my entire day watching Parliament yesterday, I too found most of them talk twaddle only to suit their political ends.

I await the backlash ( I grew up in wartime Liverpool in a Council house and was lucky enough to go to a grammar school, So I am not from the middle classes, but achieved my tertiary education through hard work in case you are interested, but doubt it! )

To me that just shows how Brexit is just a game in Parliament, and he probably got tired of it. It was a slap in the face for the country and just shows the amount of disrespect for the voters. We are now the a laughing stock of the world. As for JC I can't even look at him, he is vile through and through.

Anniel what a lot of hasty assumptions you are making! Goodness, what a rant. Do you think you are the only thinking person on this site? It is not Marxist to dislike BJ or his approach to politics or to think that we were right to join the EC and it is a mistake to leave. You owe your fellow grans an apology! (Not sure how we are all so elderly but at school in the 70s BTW)

I can see I am the only lifelong Conservative here - please tell me then what conservatism stands for and what there is in it that has attracted such loyalty from you. Does it bear any relationship now to when you first joined? Are you proud of the party's record?

Remainers are not 'sulky' because they lost a vote. This is not some name-calling playground game. This is the biggest threat to democracy and our way of life since the war. Have you ever wondered why Trump and Putin want to see Brexit? Why are the richest in favour? Is it because they care about ordinary people and their rights? In uniting 28 countries, Europe had some sway against the autocrats but Brexit undermines that.

Anniel
The teacher training in the 1979’s produced some of the worst teachers and teaching theory this country has ever seen.
I too am not wealthy but also not poor and I’m a home owner with children and a garden. So, like you I am very very scared of a Corbyn government.
Removing no deal as an outcome if a deal isn’t struck is just bad business - we have once again handed all power to EU. I’d be up for another referendum but if we’re not having one then we’re still supposedly leaving - in which case we needed the threat of No Deal - Rebels have now ensured that no decent deal can possibly be made as they’ve removed trump card.
EU law states that after article 50 we have 2 years and then if there is no deal - it’s no deal. I’ve got to the stage now that I’d welcome them enforcing that and kicking us out!

Wow - so the 52% who voted Leave are all rich autocrats!

1.*Why would a female's weight be a relevant factor*.....the point I was making was had it been a female the reaction would have been different. The Mail , in particular is obsessed by the female form. Can you imagine the fun they would have had if a woman had spread herself out like that? It would have been almost as good as Diane Abbott having a can of fizz on her way home.

2. I am not, nor will ever be a Marxist.

3. What on earth has teacher training in the 70's got to do with anything?

Anniel; so, as a lifelong Conservative, can you tell me how you feel about the appalling treatment of MP's such as Ken Clarke, Nicholas Soames etc. Because, as a lifelong Labour supporter [not a Marxist may I add] I have the utmost respect and admiration for those MP's who put country before party [and their careers] and I'm disgusted at their treatment. And also, can I ask you what your solution to the Irish problem is, because a lot of us 'lefties' are very concerned about what will happen to Ireland and we can't help but feel that those who support Johnson do not give a passing thought to that.

Overall the squabbling House deserves no respect - not in any quarter. The whole situation is shameful.

And democracy is not threatened by overturning and ignoring the votes of 17.5 million people?

Annie, I too regard myself as slightly right of center. I trained to teach in the 70s, married another teacher who found himself a job in a minor independent school, whilst I worked at an inner city primary. We did not come from privileged backgrounds either, but we were determined to give our children better life chances than we had, and so we sent our children to my husband’s minor independent school from age eleven. They are all professional now, and we own our own house. We are not rich, but we are comfortable. We have never inherited anything, but I want our children to inherit our house assuming it’s not used up in care fees later on.
Annie’s, there are certainly a lot of extremely left wing posters on Gransnet, but as you say, if all the rest of the older population thinks in the same way, then Corbyn will romp home should there be an election. I hope to God Corbyn is never our Prime Minister, he will leave the country in a worse state than Blair/Brown did, but it won’t worry him as he is a millionaire.

gillybob - howling at those pictures. Think the caravan one is my favourite!

There are some very creative people out there. Watched the twitter. (or was it Facebook?) one of him taking off like a rocket and moving through lots of funny scenarios in his prone position.

He was probably fed up to the back teeth, like most of us, at a Remainer parliament determined to stop Brexit. There is no end to the in-fighting in Parliament.

I have decided Brexit wranglings really have to be ignored. What will be will be, but I do so look forward to the next General Election. Lots of traitorous MPs will be waving bye-bye to their £90,000 pa salaries. I doubt if JR Mogg will be one of them.

I think that Caroline Lucas is really coming into her own with all this - she's showing that she's intelligent, rational, thoughtful - and not afraid to call out those she thinks are misbehaving. Well done to her!

I too am not wealthy but also not poor and I’m a home owner with children and a garden. So, like you I am very very scared of a Corbyn government

Me too Tigertooth and I imagine lots of GN members are in the same boat. We get by, and that's the best that can be said. We are where we are because of enormous effort and struggle as we worked hard, without modern perks, raised families and went without.

Still having to budget is the name of the game for all those who have had aspirations and done their all to get on in life.

I imagine the majority of people in the country could be described in the same way. Life isn't easy or carefree, still.

Unfortunately, we are the group Corbyn and Co will use to fund their extravagant spending.

We won't benefit, we will fork out, have even less and be left with a country in dire straits when he is finally kicked out. Corbynism encourages helplessness whilst condemning wealth.

If you struggle to make ends meet, and get by on your own hard work, be careful not to vote for his Marxist party.

JRM's investment company in Ireland would be very appealing if ever Corbyn/Labour were elected ???

At least the Conservative government gave tax breaks to the lowest paid, including pensioners. I pay less tax on my occupational pension now, and when I eventually get my state pension more of it will stay in my bank thanks to the Conservatives who tax us less.

Never thought I'd find a Conservative government more charitable than a Labour one, which stopped my Incapacity benefit when I was at my lowest and unable to earn. A Labour government insisted I could go to work, something which my hospital consultants and GP strongly refuted.

The boundaries have changed. We were a working class family which always voted Labour. Not any longer. The Labour Party of today, supported by middle classes, academics and anarchists (all moneyed and able to afford Glastonbury, for example..) does not represent me and those like me any longer.