Rees Mogg lying down.

Totally agree Day6.

Those of us who worked extremely hard to get to a reasonably comfortable older age will be the very ones targeted by a Corbyn government. When we married we had a house full of second hand stuff, and when our first baby came along, likewise. We did without so we could pay a mortgage and buy our own house. Like many others I worked from when my youngest child started school, simply to give my children a better start than I had. Many others worked even harder, simply to put food on the table.

Corbyn doesn’t work hard at a ‘proper’ job. He is a professional politician, and always has been. He has voted against his own government on many occasions, and is a serial ‘protester.’ Now he sniffs the chance of power, but my vote won’t help get him there.

Indeed Day6, champagne socialists are particularly objectionable in my opinion.

Completely agree maddyone with both posts.

and admiration for those MP's who put country before party

You mean the Remainer MPs, EU lovers who cannot contemplate the idea of democracy, and vote against the wishes of the majority of the population?

Those MPs?

They are following their own interests and want us tied to a capitalist EU which does not work well for the less well off. Ask the unemployed in EU member states, ask the young who are paid peanuts, ask the nomadic workers who will work anywhere for a paltry wage, and then look to the likes of Blair and Branson who need us to stay in the EU so they become even more wealthy.

Those MPs who betrayed the voter and their party manifesto will, with a bit of luck, lose their seats at the next GE.

You lot really hate so well. I had no idea so many old women were so left wing

Anniel - yes, some can be savage, but if you post on these forums you get used to the fact that more left wingers post than those who are moderate - ie: left of centre, centre or centre right.

More Remainers post than Leavers. It's a bit of a battle to try and redress the balance sometimes, but you'll see other posters here (not many of us unfortunately) who are more in line with your way of thinking.

'and admiration for those MP's who put country before party' Day6...I was referring to the Conservative MP's who have been booted out of their party. Did you actually read my post? And how do you feel about the way they have been treated?

Anniel, admitting that you are a life long supporter of the Conservative Party is a reckless statement on here!!!! You will not only be asked to justify your 'outrageous 'political record, but on attempting to do so will have it torn to pieces, ridiculed, and trashed! There are people who support your point of view, but these days most keep their heads very firmly down!! Take care!??

An anology I saw earlier "if you are in business and 20 of your employees sided with a competitor you would have grounds for sacking them"

They knew what they were doing and therefore must accept the consequences of their actions.

Anniel I am also a lifelong Conservative, could not vote for Labour/Lib Dems under any circumstances.

I have an extremely conscientious and diligent constituency MP.

"I was referring to the Conservative MP's who have been booted out of their party*

I fully understood what you were referring to Labaik

I seem to recall many staunch Labour party supporters on here who were incensed when Chuka Umunna, Luciana Berger, Chris Leslie, Angela Smith, Mike Gapes, Gavin Shuker and Ann Coffey walked away from the Labour Party recently.

They have switched allegiance and we had posts galore saying they should not be in Parliament on a Labour ticket.

The same applies to Conservatives who betray their party and leader. If they don't back the policy and in this case, the Government too, they are phoney MPs, selfishly putting individual wants before the manifesto on which they were elected.

Go and see threads about the Labour defectors.

There is nothing honourable in switching sides, There is honour in resigning.

Where is it said that democracy means first-past-the-post? Many people keep trumpeting this as tho they were the same thing.

I don’t think we have a Conservative party any more. Only a UKIP/Brexit Party, expelling and threatening members who disagree with the leader of the moment more vigorously than Momentum. Not a pretty sight.

A phoney MP, imo, is one who acts purely in self interest, and there are plenty of those on government at the moment, including the PM...

If you have the opportunity to receive Netflix I would recommend watching a British film called Riot Club. It is the horrendous tale of ten young Oxford undergraduates and their absolute disregard for people of a lower social standing. I think it is based on the real life Bullingdon Club of which our latest prime minister was a member. It speaks volumes about the behaviour displayed in parliament. Just a shame it isn’t available on mainstream television.

winterwhite perhaps you could explain what you consider is democracy

Possibly worth remembering that many people are neither rabid Leavers/Marxists/I worked hard and Corbyn isn't getting it types..... hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people going about their business doing their best.

An anology I saw earlier "if you are in business and 20 of your employees sided with a competitor you would have grounds for sacking them"

Good analogy GrannyGravy

Come the next GE I think people will be very wary of electing an MP who doesn't represent their views regarding the EU.

I thought Gransnet was meant to be an escape from the daily grind of politics??

not in the section named Politics!!! ( sorry couldn't resist)

I don’t think we have a Conservative party any more. Only a UKIP/Brexit Party

That's your view as a left wing Remainer, of course. I want to leave the EU and trusted the Conservative Party to take us out.

The Brexit Party will gather up former Labour supporters who voted Leave and Conservatives voters should Boris be thwarted in his aim to free us from Brussels stranglehold on the UK's growth. Boris gained lots of support and admiration for his approach on becoming PM. We have a Lib Dem council but many people here do not want a Lib Dem Remainer Government, so all parties are threatened by this newcomer party wanting to uphold democracy.

The Brexit Party challenges all parties and I find that refreshing in a democracy where more people wanted to leave the EU than stay in it.

Patticake The Riot Club was written by Laura Wade, a left wing writer. Although she claims it was based on the Bullingdon Club she has said that she based it on a group of men she saw whilst at Bristol University "because they had shiney hair" !

Yes, lay of Corbyn.

It’s supposed to be about Rees Mogg.

Grecian, repeat the mantra " Corbyn is a baddie"....

I think JRM's behaviour disrespectful and arrogant. He is paid a salary and I wonder what would happen to employees who behaved like that when at work. The pictures going around (Twitter, today's Metro, here, etc) are very amusing. Perhaps JRM thought we all needed entertaining in these difficult times and decided to make himself the source of the entertainment...somehow I think unlikely !

Are we actually paying him to do this? Can we issue a written warning?