How right we were

Shouldn't the attorney general be saying something about what is happening at the moment? Or do they only wheel him out on high days and holidays..

maddyone; I understand your point about medicine. But it's a bit like that cartoon in which there are people in a bunker having bombs dropped on them and it questions how 50% of the people in it would feel if they knew the other 50% had voted for the war. If I'm honest, I would die for my children and would probably commit murder if I thought someone was going to harm them. To me, voting for/supporting something that could potentially kill is tantamount to actually harming someone.

Despite the accusations levelled against the 'Tory rebels' and the combined opposition parties - that they are defying the will of the people, trashing democracy as we know it, attempting to undermine a legitimate government, I am willing to stand up and say they do speak for me!
Who's willing to say that Robinson and co (or less controversially, this abomination of a government) does really speak for them?
Really represents what you want for your families? Really can be trusted to look after the NHS ? Really are telling the truth about the public services spending spree?
That they have turned away from all the lies and have had an epiphany which makes them truthful and honest? Bottom line - that you truly trust them?

I haven't checked my facts but didn't Hitler come to power with about a third of the seats in the Bundestag.

There had been a great deal of jiggery-pokery by the previous Chancellor as I understand it; a very entitled man who had a plan but the plan fell apart and Herr Hitler stepped in.

I do not think Johnson is our worst nightmare. I believe it could be Farage. He is already running a party with no members to which he has claimed the leadership rather than be voted in, and with Tommy Robinson riding on his coat-tails is an even worse nightmare and a possible one now that the law and all the parliament stands for are being trashed.

On iplayer now

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00084tb

Yes, he did have about a third of the seats in the Reichstag. His influence was beginning to decline, so he forced an election. Hindenburg, who was paranoid about communists and socialists, thought he could control Hitler.

I don't think there's an obvious Hitler figure in the UK (yet), but most of the other players are there.

It's not so much that history will repeat itself (well, I hope not) but the parallels such as the influence of the super wealthy, their using of disenchanted working class, the use of violence, which politicians said was nothing to do with them, the manipulation of the law, weak leaders, who thought they could "use" the little Austrian corporal, rigged elections, the blind devotion of the masses, the demonization of "others" (socialists, Jews, gays, the unemployed, etc), fear of the bullies and so on …

Why risk it?

Now come on ladies. As Speaker Bercow would say ‘calm yourselves’.

Farage like Hitler?
?

It’s taken him 25 years battling to even get this far!!

You know the Remainers are losing the plot when Hitler and the Nazis get mentioned.

growstuff yes the parallels are obvious.

Although
Farage is too small a mentality to compare him to Hitler imo. He has the common touch but not much else. Funny little man.

I always imagine he smells of cigarettes and alcohol, and his breath ??something Hilter would never have done as he was meticulous in his personal habits.

And firecracker trots out yet another cliché!

something Hilter (sic) would never have done as he was meticulous in his personal habits

Oh that’s reassuring then....

Seems we have a remainer Hitler supporter.

Quite painful to watch. Varadkar conducting himself as a leader and grounding his comments in reality. Johnson looks like a child who won a Willy Wonka ticket to appear alongside him.

a little bloke who digs up people's fields

Time Team was brilliant!

I did say it would never happen, OP, but then my crystal ball did need a good clean, sorry.

I think Farage is far cleverer and far more dangerous than most people realise. Heaven forbid that I would ever go to any of his rallies but I would be fascinated to see how he plays people. He always reminds me of these people that get people to join eg pyramid selling schemes etc. Before you know it you're up on stage signing something that will make you rich beyond belief [that only works because somewhere down the line other people lose everything but, hey, who cares].

Farage is more like one of those religious cult figures where you have to stand up if you “believe”. People on here have talked about him as if he’s the messiah who will lead them to the promised land, and given him their money.

Before you know it you're up on stage signing something that will make you rich beyond belief

You find out too late (once you've handed over your dosh) that it actually doesn't make you rich at all...

I find it so weird that all these democracy loving Farage supporters are willing to support a 'party' (and yes, it's recognised by the Electoral Commission as a party) which has no membership, no manifesto and a leader who cannot be sacked because he's the one who makes up the rules...

And which, incidentally, has an MEP who is a member of the tory party. How can that be?

Politically, it seems that we're 'lost at sea' presently. Many of us are simply losing interest, and fast!

We can't lose interest; there's too much at stake. I mean, Johnson is actually going to prorogue parliament today. I must admit to being emotionally drained by it all, though. That's why I take time out every so often. Quite frankly I'm bloomin' terrified by what's going on

This is Johnson in Dublin doing arm stretches while Varadkar was speaking; he's a disgrace...

arm stretches?

Unfortunately I can't post the link but he was fidgeting about and at one point started waving his arms about. Worse than IDS picking his nose imo...

Much more serious proceedings happening right now.

Watch the BBC Parliament channel.

Talk of impeachment - maybe that all we have left against this wicked Prime Minister.

Heard that gg3

Some good speeches tonight