The yellowhammer documents

Or Carry (sp?) ???

Johnson will have to be careful now the Domestic violence bill hasn't been curtailed...

You've got to be sensible about it. It's going to happen. Unfortunate, but there it is.

I don't want it to happen. I never wanted it to happen. I didn't vote to be pitchforked into this God Almighty mess.

And I don't feel at all charitable towards those who casually put their cross against 'Leave the EU' and who cannot tell me of any real benefit we will get from leaving.

If you're saying I compared Brexit to the war Jura your comprehension skills are not great.

Elegran, I'm sure we're all well aware that many, including your DH worked to make sure that year 2000 came in with few hitches. I'm equally sure that much is being done to mitigate the challenges ahead, deal or no deal. The country voted to leave: a bit disingenuous to imagine that could happen without any initial disruption to supplies and services.

One would indeed expect the effects to be mitigated. Unfortunately, I really don't have much faith that they are. Senior civil servants, politicians and business people are claiming not much has been done. The European Commission has been giving monthly updates, whereas the UK government seems reluctant to tell the public and stakeholders anything.

The public was told on more than one occasion that it would all be seamless.

I honestly think that this government can't be trusted with very much at all.

jura - the comparison with wartime comes from the fact that we 'Stood Alone' for the first few years. Before America helped us. Food supplies cut off by sea by the Nazis.
Even then we had a wonderful govt. which created many plans to compensate for the shortages.
Whether this kind of plan would be enough now is doubtful .
We've become too materialistic.

I do hope that the 17.4 million who voted to leave realise that they voted for leaving without a deal. After all, there were no choices given on the ballot paper (other than stay or go). Ipso facto - no deal (and the resulting chaos)

Oh dear, this thread has gone from bad to worse:
No fresh fruit!
No fresh veg!
We could get Vit C from nettles!
Too late to plant veg now.....etc etc.???

Why people keep comparing this to WW2 is beyond me! Did you actually live through that war?!! or is your information just heresay?! I really don't think we are being faced with being bombed out of our homes, children being evacuated, submarines attacking and sinking vital supplies, sending the RAF up to defend against enemy bombers, young men and women being killed in their thousands, not to mention the maimed, both mentally and physically, spending night after night in a shelter often the underground, need I go on?! To compare now with then is just absurd!

Black Swan information beginning to trickle out

Dr Liz Evenden-Kenyon ?
@EvendenKenyon

#BlackSwan: apparently (in its redacted #Yellowhammer version) there is mention of:
1. Martial law
2. Significant fuel shortages
3. Unnecessary deaths re drugs & social care.
After consideration, I will hand over our findings to mainstream media contact soon. #LibDemLiz

That is where the stock piling if body bags comes from

Why people keep comparing this to WW2 is beyond me!

Because it's your bl**dy lot, Jabberwok who keep on saying that we survived WW2.

It's utterly ludicrous. The country being dragged willynilly into a situation that even most of your lot didn't vote for.

Gove - earlier this year.

“Nobody voted for no deal”

I think the original link to WW2 was purely the concept of its relation to WW2 food shortages and rationing. It resulted in a generation - my Mum's generation - that were considerably healthier than today's population because of restrictions of sugar and fat. Temporary shortages of some food items aren't likely to have much of an impact in the long term. We have become much too used to having exactly what we want when we want it. Want rather than need.

Did you actually live through that war?!! or is your information just heresay?!

Some of it! And the years thereafter which weren't much better. Not all of us are spring chickens on here you know.

I can remember so well the day there were no sweeties in our local shop, except a few stick licourise allsorts. I remember duly handing over my threepenny bit and buying them. And being sent back to the shop to get my money back.

(And, of course, I remember far worse shortages,especially for the poor people like us)

Gonegirl I remember when you couldn't buy sweeties without a ration book!!! (And we lived in a cardboard box and every night etc etc. It's getting terribly like a comedy show on here )

It might not be that funny if the madness is not stopped trisher

Oh yes! the ration books. I remember them well. Funnily enough it wasn't coupons we were ever short of. Just money.

I didn't live in a cardboard box, but our house was partly demolished.

Top that then.

You know what? I don't think that the generations younger than us are going to be quite so tolerant of straitened circumstances as we were.

We were brought up with it; they could just be pitchforked in for no particularly good reason...

Oh for goodness sake grannylaine stop all this wartime nonsense and all this 'everyone is fat so it will do them good". Do you honestly believe what you are saying, are you so indoctrinated that you think it is worth the distress and worry? Can I assume that you will stand aside and let others have your fresh fruit and veg, forego your statins/BP medication/metformin in order to support the Brexit cause because a 'few bumps in the road ' are worth it? I could say more and far worse but I do not wish to be reported to gnhq as experience has shown me that many brexiteers run to tell tales when the nasty remainers tell the truth.