The yellowhammer documents

I agree with what GrannyLaine says.

....and many nasty Remainers run to tell tales when Brexiteers tell the truth.

Whatever. I am not prepared to return to a 1950s standard of living just to satisfy the ideology of a few deluded brexiteers who think that Johnson and Farage and other tax dodging spivs actually give a fig about them.

Really? Where are you off to then?

My bread and lard with sugar on it in the fifties was lovely.

Jabberwock @ 16.49 -
This is exactly what I was told recently by a local man, aged about 50 - "We managed during the War, we can manage now".
This is in S. Tyneside , a traditional LP area.

What a very strange and rude response GillT57. Where on earth did that come from? I'm not given to overreaction and no one knows yet what the end result may be. Indoctrinated??
I voted remain by the way.

Thank you Gonegirl.

*grannylaine if I misinterpreted your post I apologise. I thought you were extolling the wonders of wartime diet as others have.

a local man, aged about 50 - "We managed during the War, we can manage now".

He wasn't even there!!!

I could give him 20 years and I wasn't there, either...

How many people would have voted leave in 2016 if they'd been told that the aftermath of brexit would be just like WW2"?

There cannot be anyone alive now who was a housewife during the war, who had to make meals out of next ti nothing. My uncle, who saw service in Italy, just died aged 97. People who have happy memories if that time were happy because they were children and sheltered from the worst so could everyone, including politicians, please stop comparing the present potential social and economic disaster, which is unnecessary, to the war

Thank you GillT57, I think you did misinterpret my comments. I was trying to balance some of the more exaggerated posts. It is a known truth that generally, the wartime diet benefitted the health of the nation but we are far, far from that situation. I would prefer to just wait and see.

Personally, I'd rather not have to wait and see. I'd like to carry on as we are because there doesn't seem to be any benefit from what the country is about to do.

Might be about to do growstuff unless we all come to our senses.

I should have explained myself better. I would rather not be in a position to have to wait and see about anything. I'd rather know that I can go to the supermarket and they'll have the same stuff on sale as they do now and know that that my medications will be there when I pick up my repeat prescription. The suspense isn't really the kind of thrill I appreciate. If there were really some benefit to this lemmings-like act, I could accept it, but there really isn't.

Absolutely growstuff

None at all.

Has this country gone completely mad?

Not all of us.

I just don't know what kind of collective madness has happened to this country. I do not want to be worse off than I am now.

How on earth can a man aged about 50 know the first thing about food rationing in and after WW2?!!! My son is 55 and was born in 1964, just about 9 years after rationing finally ended! He certainly and obviously doesn't remember it! I just remember sweet rationing as it was one of the last things to go in 1953 , but nothing else and I was born in 1943!

The country ( or social media) certainly has gone mad,
Nobody will ever wait and see anything GrannyLaine they just ratchet the hysteria up and up.

I prefer to believe the President of Port Boulogne Calais.
In his words: c'est la bullshit.
Plus the fact that nobody involved in the writing of this report had contacted Calais Port officials as to what/ is happening on their side.

I'm sure that the President of the port of Calais trumps an army of British civil servants any day, petra.

Though i'm not sure how you know that no-one involved in writing the report had contacted him. What was released to the public was a very truncated version

This is what Micheal Dougan Professor of European Law an extremely knowledgable and erudite speaker thinks.

1) Brexit is a profound act of long term national diminishment - squandering our leadership in Europe and through it much of our influence in the wider world...

Brexit is one of the largest and most far-reaching decisions, by any population in modern history, to disenfranchise itself from a vast range of rights and freedoms, protections and safeguards – not least against its own future governments...

The 2016 referendum and its ongoing aftermath have succeeded in making a mockery of the UK as a mature and responsible democracy. The precedent of rewarding systematic political dishonesty is terrible. The self-inflicted damage to our reputation and standing is shocking...

Brexit remains a vast distraction, a huge waste of time and energy and money and resources – all of which are being poured – not into trying to improve our country and the lives of its people – but simply into trying to limit the damage of Brexit itself...

Treatment of EU citizens in UK / UK citizens in EU27 is one of the great scandals of modern Britain. The uncertainty and anxiety –plus public slander and private hostility– forced upon millions of people is quite simply a dark stain upon the moral conscience of this nation...

Though has to be said: risking the achievements and stability of hard won peace in Northern Ireland - in many cases, not even giving the slightest damn about the consequences for my homeland and its lovely people - is another contender for that particular crown...

Offering inspiration for (and of course drawing its main international support from) the forces of illiberal authoritarianism (the Trumps, the Bolsonaros and let's not forget the Putins) who are on the march right across the Western world...

Plenty of others, of course. And shouldn't be too surprised: that's what happens when you take a reasonably well-run and stable country (whatever its faults) and chose to throw it into utter turmoil on the back of the lies and fantasies of a gang of populist hard right charlatans

And that, dear Leave correspondent, is why I won't "just get over it". Plus the fact that I'm a sentient being, concerned about my country and its closest friends, able and entitled to form and advocate opinions, without being bullied into silence by PEOPLE WHO USE CAPS A LOT

Well, he would say that wouldn’t he? Given his job!
There are plenty of knowledgable and erudite people on both sides of this matter, with differing views on it.