Johnson must resign

You all seem to think that the Queen despises Boris and doesn't want Brexit. You all actually don't know anything about what the Queen really thinks so stop speaking for her!

Astonishing interview with Johnson who seems to be refusing to comply with the rule of law and insists we will be leaving in the 31st October.

Parliament has ruled against that and it is the law

What about MPs like Corbyn whose constituents voted remain?
The referendum wasn’t done by constituencies.
The election wasn’t just about leave/ remain
MPs don’t just represent the constituents who voted for them, they represent the interests of all their constituents whether they voted or not.
People who forgive Boris anything, even illegalities and lying, are being totally undemocratic in that democracy does not equal you can do what you like.

I think the queen can speak for herself but she does so carefully. It is said that there is nothing about the queen's wardrobe which is accidental.

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democracy does not equal you can do what you like.
It seems those remain voters who are all out to stymie a democratic vote, confirmed by parliament with the invocation of Article 50. Think that they can do what they like and distort true democracy to suit their agenda.
No remain voter can say they uphold democracy whilst perverting its lawful application.

But doesn’t triggering A50 mean that if a WA isn’t reached we automatically ‘by default’ Leave??

I know there’s the Benn Bill - but which position is actually stronger/ supersedes?

The next election will be a referendum in itself.

We have one unequivocally Remain party

One, unequivocally Leave party and

One party sitting on the fence ready to back which ever side looks like winning.

ug no the law is that no deal can’t happen that Johnson has to ask for an extension.

That is what he appears to be trying to ignore.

But it is the law.

From the BBC website:

‘Regardless of what UK law says, any extension to Brexit has to be agreed to by all the other 27 members of the EU.

It is possible that other European leaders are not convinced that they should grant the UK another delay’

Apparently

‘There was a point of controversy during the passage of the bill, because some MPs and peers argued it could effectively force the UK to agree to whatever the EU asks for.

‘If MPs were to reject an alternative date, the UK could end up leaving without a deal’.

‘Could no deal happen in the future?
The new law tries to avoid a no-deal Brexit on 31 October, but it can't rule out a no-deal Brexit in the future.

There are only two ways to do that: pass and implement a withdrawal deal or cancel Brexit altogether.’

Just watch a toe curling speech from Johnson.

It was appalling.

It doesn’t mitigate the law ug

No deal then extend. If he refuses then he goes.

It seems to me that there are a lot of public figures and media folk, blasting out negative invective at every attempt to sort out this horrendous mess. It is more than time to go to the country with an election and take a democratic poll of opinion.

The Suprem Court reaches a conclusion, 11 of our most senior judges, unanimous in their verdict and Boris Johnson, with no legal training of any kind, says he disagrees with their judgement, that they were wrong.

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He can’t have it both ways - either prorogation was nothing to do with Brexit as he claimed, OR having prorogation declared unlawful frustrates Brexit. It can’t be both. twitter.com/nickeardleybbc/status/1176470366014922753 …
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PM accuses claimants in Supreme Court case of trying to frustrate Brexit

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Came to power, lost his majority live on TV, fired his hero's grandson, set the record of losing his first five votes in Parliament (breaking the previous record of four set by Boris Johnson earlier that same evening), lied to the Queen, broke the law. We're in month two.

Urms as I understand it the Benn Law stated that if the EU came back with a different date for the extension then Boris has to accept within 2 days. The Ben Law has tied his hands thank goodness.

If he doesn’t like the Supreme Court’s ruling, will he take it to the EU Court of Appeal do you think? Oh dear .... ?

No Barmey if the EU come back with a different date I think Parliament have to take a vote. Not ‘Boris accept it’. Many MP’s and peers were unsettled about this aspect of the Benn Bill until it was clarified.

I do however stand to be corrected if I’m wrong.

The ruling merely said it was unconstutional. It did not say that the Queen was misled or that it was intended to thwart opposition.

AND one can bet the Queen's legal team were OK with Boris's request too, or she would not have given her consent.

The Queen is guided by the law and would have been given all the answers to her questions about prorogation before seeing Boris.

He should go, as he has abused parliament and misled the Queen

But he hasn't has he?

The Queen's legal team were also misled then?

You surely don't think she acts without their advice on such matters?

It was actually described as 'unlawful'. I described it as unconstitutional and a legal friend corrected me very firmly.

The advert on the bottom of my screen on this thread is 'Become a Citizen of Monaco'. Quite tempting actually!

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Wow. Those T shirt printers are quick. Think I'd rather just have the diamond brooch though.

newnanny If you are right and if Johnson is very popular and would easily win an election, I am sorry at what this country has come to.

Apart from this absolute shambles re prorogation, he has proved to be a man of bad character and judgment.