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Johnson must resign

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 11:56:43

Along with Rees Mogg who as Lord President of the Privy Council and who was complicit in misleading the Queen

BlueBelle Tue 24-Sept-19 15:55:24

Come back Guy Fawkes blow the whole blooming lot up and let’s start again
Who ever further up said Boris would win with a bigger majority than ever must be on something and floating about in a flower power space
varian that hat said it all didn’t it ?

lemongrove Tue 24-Sept-19 16:07:53

Johnson doesn’t have to resign as PM, it’s up to him, but what he could do is resign as PM but stay as leader of the Conservative Party if MPs agree to have a GE.Of course, he could win and be back in power again.Anything is possible these days.

lemongrove Tue 24-Sept-19 16:09:45

Eloethan I don’t think it’s that he is popular, but more that
He is the only leader promising to honour the results of the referendum.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 16:20:26

I see Cummings is issuing statement one a minute. He isn’t best pleased is he?

People seem a bit confused about the European courts.

The European court nor the appeal court have NO SOVEREIGNTY over UK LAW.

Contrary to what Brexiters would have you believe.

The government is stuck with the ruling.

The Supreme. Ours is the highest court in the Land.

No one can over rule it’s judgement.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 16:20:47

Not ours, - court

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 16:22:42

The only way out of this is a second referendum.

A GE won’t answer

crystaltipps Tue 24-Sept-19 16:56:48

Using the argument that you are upholding democracy or the will of the people or whatever soundbites Cummings comes up with doesn’t mean Johnson can break the law, despite what Brexiteers were hoping. How can he disagree with the judges - he more or less admitted he prorogued parliament to thwart debate.

humptydumpty Tue 24-Sept-19 17:00:48

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 17:39:04

Today was all about constitutional law and Johnson misleading and abusing.

But he still has to answer a potential criminal charge of the misuse of public money.

Happiyogi Tue 24-Sept-19 17:43:19

Johnson should resign?
ASAP

varian Tue 24-Sept-19 18:53:31

I think BJ needs to be booted out by a VONC. He has not the honesty or the decency to resign.

Peonyrose Tue 24-Sept-19 19:15:17

The mind boggles it's absolutely bonkers, ridiculous, another referendum when the first one has caused all this upset. Well, what chance have we got with such views. I know we will keep on until no one is alive to remember the first one.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 19:22:34

How about revoke and re-think?

NotSpaghetti Tue 24-Sept-19 19:26:40

I know this is a difficult and serious discussion but can I just share this little bit of instant YouTube humour please?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=W0pTpwqkB48

Gonegirl Tue 24-Sept-19 19:30:55

There can never be a satisfactory deal so why not let Johnson carry on and crash his way out of the EU. The country's got to get moving again.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 19:34:00

It will if they revoke.

In fact it’s the least damaging option.

Simply business as usual.

Just think peace and normality.

Grandad1943 Tue 24-Sept-19 20:22:38

It would seem that support for Johnson may now be drifting away among Tory MPs. Many are refusing to give any comment on the Supreme Court judgment or state any outright support for their party leader.

Apparently, it was reported on our BBC local news program "Points West" that one Tory MP who stated he wished to remain anonymous advised the reporter that "Johnson cannot be allowed to remain as leader."

The rats are starting to desert the Johnson ship in the hope of saving their own seats in the forthcoming election.

I believe that unless Johnson is prepared to throw the DUP and the Northern Irish people "under the bus" to save Brexit, he will be out as leader, and then give it six months and just like Cameron, within the Tory Party, it will be as if Johnson never existed.

Grandad1943 Tue 24-Sept-19 20:38:07

Gonegirl, in regard to your post @19:30 today, could you or any other leave supporter please advise me that even if Britain "crashes out" of the European Union with no withdrawal agreement how that will resolve the Irish border issue?

I realise that the above question has been asked on this forum any number of times prior to my request, but I cannot recall any leave supporter furnishing an answer.

M0nica Tue 24-Sept-19 20:58:58

Grandad Conservative MPs were instructed not to make any comment on the Supreme court ruling and are generally keeping stumm to be on the safe side.

Gonegirl Tue 24-Sept-19 21:16:06

I AM NOT A LEAVE SUPPORTER! hmm

Gonegirl Tue 24-Sept-19 21:18:10

Don't bloody insult my intelligence. Read and understand a post properly. If you can hmm

Gonegirl Tue 24-Sept-19 21:18:58

I don't know anything except that this country needs to move on.

Grandad1943 Tue 24-Sept-19 21:33:20

Gonegirl, there is no requirement to shout. However, In your post @19:30 you appear to be in favour of Boris Johnson being allowed to let Britain "crash out" of the European Union with no withdrawal agreement.

I then responded by asking the reasonable question "how would such action resolve the Irish border issue. So Gonegirl, should it be that you are unaware of any answer to that question why not just calmly respond by stating so.

Therefore I will ask again of any leave supporter on this forum, how Britain "crashing out" of the European Union with no withdrawal agreement will resolve the Irish border issue.

Grandad1943 Tue 24-Sept-19 21:41:03

Gonegirl, not resolving the Irish border issue will not allow this country to move on following any terms of Brexit.

Indeed, such a situation would in all probability restart the war in Ireland and that could well bring those troubles to these mainland shores as it did through violence in the 60,70 and 80s

So, anyone feel they have a solution?

Elegran Tue 24-Sept-19 21:41:33

Well, you did say "could you or any other leave supporter" and I have seen Gonegirl post several times that she is not a leave supporter. It is not surprising that she is annoyed at being addressed as one again. "crash his way out of the EU" doesn't sound very approving to me.
However, let's not allow ourselves to fall out and add even more bad temper to the piles of it threatening to overwhelm the country.