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Labour policy - no immigration caps, open borders and free movement.

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Day6 Thu 26-Sept-19 17:12:57

inews.co.uk/news/politics/labour-conference-2019-free-movement-brexit-immigrants-voting-rights-637164

"Diane Abbot launched Labour's new immigration policy."

"Labour would keep free movement after Brexit and let all immigrants vote in elections and referendums after party members backed a much more liberal migration regime"

"The move came on the final day of a party conference overshadowed by bitter internal rows and the Supreme Court's shock verdict"

"The new policy package is a victory for activists who want Labour to position itself as the openly pro-migration party at the next election

Would it endanger the country by allowing foreign criminals to stay indefinitely?

"Delegates at the conference in Brighton backed the call to "maintain and extend free movement rights" after Brexit in a change to previous policy. That would let all European citizens live and work freely in the UK "

"The motion also called for all immigration detention centres to be closed down, with caps on migrant numbers abolished and no requirement for foreign citizens to earn a particular wage if they want to settle in Britain."

Is this not a "Vote for Labour" ploy?

Jezza will allow uncontrolled immigration in the hope that all entering the UK will vote for Labour. Rather desperate and dangerous measures which will affect us all, I'd say. hmm

Your views?

MaizieD Sun 29-Sept-19 20:12:03

Do you think you've defeated Grandad intellectually, oh misnamed one?

lemongrove Sun 29-Sept-19 20:17:00

Well, it’s true there are no rants, so.......

love0c Sun 29-Sept-19 20:24:35

People will always disagree on politics and religion. With regard to open door policy immigration, I believe it depends on where you live as to your views on it. It is how immigration effects your particular area. Sometimes a good thing in an area and sometimes proves to be not so good. It is a shame people can not just be totally honest and not just think my area is good and ok so open immigration is fine. A case of' I'm alright Jack' and 'not in my back yard'.

varian Sun 29-Sept-19 22:41:59

Yet it is interesting that the areas with a high proportion of immigrants are apparently less anti-immigration and were more likely to vote Remain in 2016 whereas areas with very few immigrants tended to vote Leave

MaizieD Sun 29-Sept-19 23:20:06

The NE overall has a very low percentage of immigrants (about 7% if I recall rightly) and voted Leave (apart from Newcastle, with a high proportion of those immigrants, which voted Remain)

I don't think immigration was their foremost reason.

Hetty58 Sun 29-Sept-19 23:27:58

Lack of opportunity had a lot to do with their vote:

www.jrf.org.uk/report/brexit-vote-explained-poverty-low-skills-and-lack-opportunities?

MaizieD Sun 29-Sept-19 23:47:29

That hardly explains the Sunderland vote. They had Nissan, worth 30,000 jobs to them...

Though locals I spoke to afterwards were pretty sure that Nissan wouldn't move out as the Sunderland factory was one of Nissan's top performers because of its excellent workforce.

Impartialandeducated Mon 30-Sept-19 08:31:26

Humptydumpty I am pleased that you admit that the labour plans are unrealistic. So what is the use of putting forward resolutions that cannot come to fruition? Perhaps we should staff A & E units with king's horses to perform surgery???

Grandad1943 Mon 30-Sept-19 09:11:42

Impartialandeducated, in regard to your post @08:31 today, many of the debates at the Labour Movement Delegate conference this year were indeed carried out on the basis of Resolutions put forward. A Resolution is placed before any meeting within the Labour organisation as an ambition if passed

However, in the above, any Motion if passed immediately becomes Labour Party policy which the National Executive are under obligation to implement should they gain government power.

As John, McDonald as pointed out in the numerous interviews he has given in recent days, many of the debates held at this years delegate conference were held under Resolution status and therefore they would make up a ten-year portfolio of policies for a Labour Party government.

Impartialandeducated, as you stated in your above post that the conference had debated "resolutions" that negates the need to mention "kings horses" etc, as to anyone with basic political knowledge and education would have seen the above as obviously long term ambitions.

Anyway of to the office now, see you later.

MaizieD Mon 30-Sept-19 09:18:38

I wouldn't bother to feed it, Grandad...

Boosgran Mon 30-Sept-19 13:50:07

Haha Terribull what a hilarious post @15:15! ?