Labour policy - no immigration caps, open borders and free movement.

I feel GN needs all the laughs it can get at the moment, as po faced misery preaching seems to be the in thing

Isn't it just lemon A light-hearted response is always very welcome I think, so thank you Terribull

When did we breed such idiots that, even with the free education our country gives them, they are prepared to believe something without ever checking to see if it's true, just because it suits their underlying prejudice?

Do remember bias is the tool of left wingers too Gracesgran and you have been known to smear anyone thinking differently from you with stuff you dredge up from biased left wing press and publications.

If idiot (so charitable, aren't you? ) is the term for those who criticise Labour and your beloved Corbyn, those not sharing your worship of the Marxists eager to destroy the UK, then we'll have to come up with a similar term of endearment. Those looking to see Labour damage and destroy the UK are many, so there must be a collective noun for them?

A Momentum of Marxists maybe?

Anti-establishment will do for now

Please, please, TerriBull contribute to the political threads with your wonderful witty ( and insightful) posts.

Btw. Not all sailing folk are part of the bourgeoisie. My boat before the one we have now was moored astern of the Queens 'golden' barge. We saw it when she went onboard that day.
I'm a south London girl who didn't even finish school: I just got lucky?

Day6 well said! Momentum is usually a word used for forward or upward movement but I suppose there can be negative momentum as well, often referred to scientifically as "drag"
Seems appropriate for that collection of no-hopers and their deluded supporters !!

Well Impartialandeducated, given I see hard left Momentum as the driving force of the Labour Party, I feel their movement or momentum is designed to ensure Labour goes backwards and becomes the party for anarchists and those into the politics of envy.

If you earn a wage, beware Labour. They'll ensure your tax contributions pay for their crazy schemes and when there isn't enough money to fund them, (surprise, surprise) all the workers will be squeezed a bit more. As mentioned in a previous post elsewhere. low earning EU workers in the UK have their wages made up with benefits they are entitled to claim.

There will be huge amounts of money to fund it all. Borrowing and then the ensuing debt that the government which follows Labour has to sort out. Balancing the books is known as 'austerity' by high-spending Labour governments. Simple economics isn't their forte.

The Diane Abbot school of thought regarding economics powers Labour.

That is so much emotive crap that you express in the opening of the thread.

If you are so committed to this government and its objective of “free trade” and assuming that you have the slightest degree of knowledge of economics and free trade, you would be totally aware that free trade by definition means that there will be free movement of capital, goods, services and labour. Restrictions on any of these means free trade is not possible.

The emotions that you seek to raise by the bayou open the thread is not designed to inform but simply to spread fear and make people anxious. That is appalling and you should be ashamed

Most of the motions passed in the last week have not had the labour leadership or MPs present as they will have been in the HoC. Interesting to see what ends up in their manifesto. Ditto the Tory conference coming up. Expect lots of promised “giveaways”

Anarchy and a socialist controlled economy are not even compatible.

starbird

England isn't the most densely populated country in Europe or the EU.

inews.co.uk/opinion/i-mapped-population-density-across-europe-britain-isnt-crowded-think-514403

Star bird - England doesn’t have large numbers who have never seen the countryside or seen a cow.

The enemy within. No wonder he has sat on the fence for three years.

So Crystaltipps, you are now saying that motions are passed, the parliamentary party having no knowledge let alone having a vote. I look forward to the chaos when the manifesto you refer to is published. Will those delegates then be told they didn't know what they were voting to facilitate a different way forward. Latest polls show conservatives increasing their lead over the next party and the beloved Corbyn over 20% behind Boris as a prime minister!! Maybe the market researchers asked the wrong questions or more likely the respondents did not understand what they were responding to, a key feature of the"new democracy"

I am not a Corbyn fan in any way shape or form, although I don’t think he is a lying charlatan like Boris. Popular appeal does not equal good as we know from recent history. I’m just saying conference calls do not always result in manifesto pledges, and manifestos themselves are not sacred documents and are not always delivered as we well know from the number of recent U turns.

Isn't this just what has been going on e the whole time the conservative government has been in place? They have had it in their power to limit immigration from outside the EU and have not taken any action.

Labour’s conference this week was the most dramatic in generations for the policies it agreed to implement in government. The result – together with those Labour had already announced – is a astonishing list of over two hundred policies to transform life for vast majority of the UK’s people.

Some major and some less extensive, they will restore this country to a United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland after decades of stripping and selling off by the right:

new National Care Service
new National Education Service abolish Universal Credit
halt NHS privatisation
replace DWP with new Department for Social Security
scrap hospital parking charges
abolish Zero Hours Contracts
skills-based immigration system
end academies & free schools
1/3 of board seats for workers
lift bans on onshore wind farms
overhaul gambling regulation
10 policies to fix the BBC
safe standing allowed at stadia
additional health visit for babies
nationalise the National Grid
restore nurses’ bursary
extend £10/hr MW to 16yr olds+
extend FOI Act to private sector
halt Saudi Arabia arms exports
recognise State of Palestine
new Rogue Landlord Register
raise Corporation Tax to 26%
extend free-to-air sport events
overseas Loan Transparency Act
move part of Treasury north
5 pledges for the Armed Forces
register of Beneficial Ownership
interest free Homeowner Loans
£5bn Robin Hood Tax
extend abortion rights to NI
new Green Tech Deal for North
abolish in-work poverty
leaseholder-rights revolution
mandatory alcohol labelling
declare climate emergency
bring rail into public ownership
500,000 new council homes
solar panels for 1.7m homes
elected House of Lords
3,000 more prison officers
redistribute disused retail outlets
menopause-friendly policies
commission on ftar-right Threat
integrate private schools
Sure Start Plus.
free nursery for 2-4 year olds
scrap Ofsted
cap school uniform costs
low emission Ambulances
1m NHS trees planted
1,500 more trainee GP places
scrap prescription charges
end detaining & torturing suspects
reverse legal aid cuts
£20m People’s Law Centres fund
200 new Community Lawyers
new access to justice rights
5,000 more prison officers
end short prison sentences
£20m for women’s centres
public accountability law
renationalise Scottish Rail
£30 per week for ESA recipients
end Sure Start Closures
zero emissions by 2050
400,000 Green Tech Jobs
earn more on Social Care
home help for 160,000 more
£1bn for new Bus Routes
right to an Indefinite Tenancy
free bus travel for under 255
not for profit buses in England
£250m children’s health fund
£6bn p.a. extra for the NHS
scrap Work Capability test
1 year maternity leave
3,000 more firefighters
all class sizes under 30
£3bn Mersey Tidal Project
£1bn Cultural Capital Fund
a Workers’ Protection Agency
private rent cap
implement Leveson 2
scrap SATs
Clean Air Act
Fair Food Act
restore EMA
end Right to Buy
War Powers Act
ban fracking
scrap tuition Fees
£500bn investment
end badger cull
Second Home Tax
restore Legal Aid
£1bn oligarch Levy
Gender Pay Gap Act
repeal Lobbying Act
scrap Bedroom Tax
reverse PIP cuts
free school Meals
transgender rights
new Well-being Act
ban on new Grammars
repeal Tory NHS Act
reform outsourcing
repeal Vagrancy Act
£3bn pa for Education
£500 p.a. for carers
Orgreave Inquiry
Shrewsbury Inquiry
blacklisting Inquiry
Hillsborough Inquiry
renationalise Rail
renationalise Water
renationalise Energy
nationalise Probation
a Co-Op University
votes for 16 year olds
equal Marriage in NI
4 day week in 10 years
£6bn free personal social care
Second EU Referendum
carbon neutral by 2030
homeless Bill of Rights
closing all detention centres
67,000 wind shore jobs
400,000 Green Tech Jobs
10% transfer of shares to workers
restore Trade Union rights
collective bargaining powers
27m new GP appointments
race & Faith Manifesto
ban animal trophy imports
new legal right to food
double no. of apprenticeships
£8bn for new schools
renationalise Royal Mail
4 new public holidays
Crossrail for the North
new National Investment Bank
2% of GDP for Defence Spending
NHS safe staffing Law
20-point workers’ rights deal
childhood obesity strategy
switch business tax to CPI
end Post Office closures
abolish food poverty in 3 years
£6m people’s access to food fund
new state-owned Pharma firm
Ministry for Employment Rights
scrap UK Office Conversion Clause
reverse £1bn Inheritance Tax Cut
break up Big 4 Accountancy Firms
create a Social Justice Commission
scrap Non-Dom Status
£3.6bn vehicle-charging network
build 1 million new homes in 5yrs
ban unpaid internships
5% of Premier League cash for grassroots
£20bn investment bank for Scotland
like for like replacement of Trident
establish a new Post Office Bank
50p tax for those on £123,000+
‘fat-cat levy’ on bosses making £350k
maintenance grants for students
45p rate for earners (£80k – £123k)
new violence against women commission
new Brighton mainline for SW England
reverse £735m Capital Gains Tax Cut
20% tax on Private Health Insurance
create Minister for Mental Health
17 point plan to beat Tax Avoidance
5 year tax freeze on incomes below £80k
£100m Cold weather plan for rough sleepers
‘Build it in Britain’ guarantee e.g. naval ships
implement Parker Review for BAME equality
paid leave for domestic abuse victims
5 point plan for High Street e.g. free Wi-Fi
8,000 new homes for rough sleepers
equal rights for gig-economy workers
free childcare for low income families
new Scottish Devolution Bill on employment law
Vehicle Scrappage Scheme to remove 400,000 cars
2.5m interest free loans to buy new electric cars
government car fleet will be 100% electric
3 new battery Gigafactories (Stoke, Croydon & Wales)
£300m Community owned Car Clubs
50% cut in food bank usage in first year
compulsory licensing to cut cost of medicines
the Caerphilly Strategy for Mental Health (£2bn)
ban donations from non-UK taxpayers
Big Pharma research-funding reform
freedom of movement Conference motion
£50,000 compensation to test veterans
compulsory licensing for Big Pharma medicines
37 state-owned off-shore wind farms
electricity profits into Norway-style wealth fund
end opt-out of Working Time Directive
Labour’s vision under Jeremy Corbyn is the hope for millions to live in a just, compassionate – great – United Kingdom. It’s time to end the withering and blighting of our country by the Tories and their billionaire backers.

grany?

Yes great reforming policies Grany, very much in the mode of the 1945 Clement Attlee Labour government that gave this nation so much for everyone who resided here.

Yes these are the sort of polices I can get behind

Grany Your list is exhaustive and exhausting.
1.DWP changed to dept of soc security......why bother with the "work" bit
2.Recognise Palestine... easy just look for rockets flying toward Jerusalem
3.4 new public holidays...on top of the 4 day week..a new definition of part time work
4.Free bus travel for under 255....should be feasible
5.End opt out of working directive... can't see there will be much work taking place
6.50pc cut in food bank use in first year..bouncrrs on the door to keep them out
7.Cap on school uniforms...most schools no longer specify caps
8. Restore trade union rights.......back to Scargill and cronies..25% inflation
9. Create minister for mental health....no shortage of candidates on labour benches
10. Repeal bedroom tax....there is no such tax.
This is my top ten.. hope I have treated with the attitude it merits.

Looks even crazier written down grany

I said ages ago they would want anything that moved nationalised, and seems I was right.

Another forum member having lost a constructive argument taking off on a rant.

I can’t see any rants on here at all, so....

Somehow these aims, even if not realistic, represent aspirations somewhat preferable to the Conservatives.

9. Create minister for mental health....no shortage of candidates on labour benches.......and the point of this is?

Grandad1943 Since you clearly do not understand the meaning of the word rant, which you seem to use whenever you feel defeated intellectually, why not choose other terminology, e.g. "fair cop"!!!!