bloody whinging royals

Megan was clingy before she had the baby

I am not a monarchist and feel no affiliation whatsoever to the monarchy as an institution.

However, like some others on here, I feel that Meghan and Harry have been subjected to some really unfair treatment. Yes, they are hypocritical and wasteful - but so are other members of the family who profess to care about the environment. And they are all profligate - William and Kate spending over a million pounds to re-surface Kensington Palace driveway. "Airmiles Andy" and Charles haven't exactly been beacons of environmentalism and decency either.

Harry and Meghan are being subjected to attacks from almost every angle. A member of the royal family who continued a very close friendship with a convicted paedophile who, fortunately for some, died in very suspicious circumstances, must feel quite relieved that the heat is off him.

I bet he does!

must feel quite relieved that the heat is off him.

The heat is NOT off him at all there are plenty of calls for full investigations.

You can have opinions about more than one thing at a time

Urmstrongran is right, Harry is a worry. He’s not just fragile but in my opinion is broken. He’s lost his once very close brother and has chosen to distance himself from friends and the rest of his family because he feels it’s his way of protecting his wife and son. It is clear that Megan has manipulated him into this situation “As I keep telling H”....and no matter what you think of the royal family, is it not sad to see another human being reduced to this state?

over the years I’ve gone from being a Royalist, to just having a very high regard for a few of them.

Always liked Harry, and who couldn’t have been profoundly moved by the sight of those boys walking behind their mothers coffin.

But, I am wholly sick of their whining, I think Meghan knew perfectly well what she was getting into when she married a British Prince, and I think the British People genuinely wished them well, but if they can’t stand the heat, they had best get out of the kitchen, never a good idea to do these self pitying TV interviews in my opinion.

As Ellanvannin says, maybe Meghan is suffering from PND. A lot has happened to her in the last couple of years, I still think having a baby straightaway has given her little time to adjust to marriage and her new life. (And before anyone jumps in, I know many of us have had a baby soon after getting married!)
Also think that the fact she is carrying a bit of post pregnancy baby weight will not make her feel great, bearing in mind she is used to looking very slim and elegant in front of the camera. And no, I’m not criticising, just making an observation.

If Meghan is suffering from post natal depression, surely she’s having the very best of medical care, and every kind of help available.

I’ve just been hearing on Radio 4, the Royal Correspondent for, I think, The Times, saying the press are a bit miffed because Meghan gets a great deal off positive attention, which is never acknowledged.

By the way, I think her post pregnancy tummy makes her look quite attractive.

I think that this should be kept private. They need help and support from professionals.No one can handle mental healing this way.

He needs to keep out of the media, but is fanning the flames and courting a mixture approval and disapproval.

This can only end badly. So sad . Neither seem to have the strength to cope with a difficult role.

It is clear that Megan has manipulated him into this situation “As I keep telling H”....and no matter what you think of the royal family, is it not sad to see another human being reduced to this state?

Liljan I agree.

I was also concerned that Meghan kept finishing Harry's sentences for him and interrupting him in the Africa documentary the other night.... and he stood there like a chastened puppy.

But as someone said several pages back, if a British man went over to the US, married Ivanka Trump and then started finding fault with the Americans, preaching to them but generally being hypocritical, we surely know how that would be received ......

When Meghan helped put together that Vogue cover recently of the most influential women, where was the Queen, where was Diana? Who actually IS Jameela Jamil who - in Meghan's opinion - qualified to appear on the cover above them?

And M's hand on H's back all the time, guiding him through doorways etc - sorry, that's not affection, that's control.

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I agree about the controlling thing. Can you imagine if Tim Lawrence had behaved in the same way with a Princess Anne - finishing her sentences, rubbing her back, telling the press what he’d told A?!

SirChen. What a thought , ?

MM does have a touch of Lady Macbeth about her!

I have to agree with the post that concluded they were both a bit weird.
She is false and manipulative and he is immature and feeling sorry for himself.
They'd spoil another pair.

If self important idiots like George Clooney are drip feeding comments about Diana, Harry is going to soak them up like a sponge. Where are his old pals who have offered support in the past?

There are younger Royals like Zara and Eugenie who he is reported to be close to. Are they keeping a distance?

Meghan strikes me as somebody who doesn't recognise the importance of family support and might (we can't know for sure) be driving a wedge between Harry and his because it comes easily to someone who has cut her own family adrift.

I also think she was unkind to mention in the interview that her friends warned against their marriage. She blamed possible press intrusion but she made it sound as though she only married him because she was too naïve to make a more sensible decision.

Comments like that must hurt Harry.

Until his marriage Harry has spent his life surrounded by family, then he moves out to Frogmore .

Always having an extended family close then moving away from that support is very difficult, I have experienced it, not a wise move for him.

I think these two have serious mental health issues and it doesn't improve it in any way to compare what you have to someone who is worse off than you, as many comments in the media suggest doing. Mental health problems can strike any class in society and when it does it is as debilitating and devasting for each person. I feel for them if this their problem. But having said that they need to help themselves, much of this is brought on by poor public opinion due to their bad mistakes such as cries for privacy, not showing off their new baby, the endless pregnancy, hypocrisy, needless spending on private jets, designer clothing, house renovations I could go on. They need time out, with help from the media to achieve this, to heal and reflect on their mistakes. Then a change of job, royal duties do not seem to suit anymore so give it up, get a job or I'm sure they could live very comfortably off their personal fortunes. I do think that, from the outside, Meghan looks to be isolating Harry from family and friends which will remove his support network which is always concerning. She also looks to be the leader in the relationship, which would not be a problem in a non-royal relationship, but is one when you look at the protocols within the royal family.

The Windsors have always lived very close as an extended family. Understandable because they are not going to talk to the media about each other.

I also think she was unkind to mention in the interview that her friends warned against their marriage. She blamed possible press intrusion but she made it sound as though she only married him because she was too naïve to make a more sensible decision.

Comments like that must hurt Harry.

Yes, merlot, and she lowered her voice to say this as if she was whispering a confidence --- only it's being broadcast to millions! A horrible thing to say behind Harry's back.

Merlotgran, you took the words out of my mouth, or rather off my page. Meghan absolutely certainly doesn’t recognise the importance of family, and it is she who is isolating Harry. She has cast her own father to the wind. Yes he has made mistakes, but no loving daughter would do this. She would have offered love and advice, not just abandoned him, it’s unforgivable! And she has also completely abandoned the rest of her family, it’s beyond belief that she has absolutely nothing to do with any of them. I’m sorry, but I’m going to call a spade a spade here, it is NOT normal to have a massive society wedding and only invite one relative. It’s simply not normal! She has half siblings, aunts, uncles, and cousins, and none of them were invited. None of them! If we take this as the basis for looking at her character, then we can see that she is selfish, manipulating, and controlling. Harry is a shadow of his former self. He has no support other than her, as others have pointed out. His father and brother must be desperately worried. Apparently his brother tried to warn him before the marriage. If this is true, then we know that William, and probably Catherine saw her for what she has turned out to be, grasping, greedy, and seeking out fame and fortune, at ANY price. I have seen suggestions that she could be narcissistic, based on her observable behaviour, that could very well be true.

I thought the dad was invited and then decided at the last minute that he had to go into hospital?

Whether he was invited or not, he didn’t attend. Why?

He has apparently been told he will have no contact with Meghan and will never see his grandchild. Are those the actions of a loving daughter?

Why has Harry never met his father in law? Is that normal?

Think about it!

I don’t think they have serious mental health conditions at all
srn63 ( are you serious?!)
I think they want too much, and that’s the problem for them.
She assumed she could carry on much as before with the added glitz of being ‘a princess’ and he assumed they could live a fairytale life, neither scenario was ever going to happen.
William chose the path of responsibility and duty, Harry chose a celeb lifestyle.