bloody whinging royals

Meghan's tearful face as she told an interviewer that no one had asked how she was, reminded me of Princess Diana but did not look genuine. Shes an actress.

I don’t think Harry is disliked personally - it’s his public persona that is not very popular at the moment. Remember he was a bit of an arse in his younger days and not well liked then either, then he seemed to be taken in hand by someone or something (the army?) and seemed to lead quite a normal life. Now he and M seem to have decided that we all need lessons from them on how to be feminists or how to save the planet while they jet about in their private planes, and they seem genuinely puzzled that we don’t love them as much as their sleb circles seem to.

I agree that it’s good to highlight mental health causes but the public and the press are not the ones to help and support H through that.

Through his own issues I mean.

I’m not a fan of the royal family really but I admit to a soft spot for Harry. I think the death of his mother at such a young age has scarred him and he will be affect all his life. Many people are damaged by their childhood experiences. We see it in Harry precisely because he’s in the public eye. I see this in many friends and family and occasionally myself. I have some sympathy with Megan perhaps she has a touch of pnd, perhaps she’s the least favourite DiL/SiL and feels she’ll never fit in. I know that they have very privileged lives and should be grateful but no matter our wealth or position we are only human and all have our frailties. The difference being unless we choose to share ours they are not under public scrutiny. Harry and Megan’s are. What shines through to me is their devotion to each other and their beautiful baby.

surely its not good for anyone to dwell on the past as much as he appears to be doing.We all lose parents ,many of us in tragic circumstances but 20 odd years down the line we manage to get on with our lives and ,yes we think about them but not obsess nor blame others for the death .As someone upthread said grief is NOT a mental health issue if he IS still grieving then he needs to deal with it OR is he playing with thepublic and the press the same way his mother did ?

I am sure they love each other and their son, but the hand holding, eye gazing, tender touching says no more than
William and Kate holding their children’s hands, their laughter when they are competing in a boat race , their eye contact.

Ingrid Bergman was sooo in love with Bogarde in ‘Casablanca’.

I disagree! Do we want to see another Diana, tragically killed after years of being hounded by the press?

Harry loves his wife and she loves him. They are new parents and have enough to learn and cope with.

Yes, they are privileged and don't have our money worries, but they both know the heartache of divorced parents.

Leave them alone. I am proud we live with a monarchy.

I don't hate them at all but I am irritated by them. I think there needs to be less self and more duty. They would do well to take a cue from the Queen.

Do we want to see another Diana, tragically killed after years of being hounded by the press?

How is that likely to happen?

Paddyann, it’s not about still grieving , it is about how a death ( and many other situations ) can affect a child .
We are all a sum of are parts , perhaps some of us have more compassion because we were shown compassion or protected someone who needed it, perhaps some are angry because they didn’t have support or any control over what happened to them , it’s not a right or wrong, but the more aware we are the more we understand each other , that’s a good thing ,isn’t it ?

But Harry isn’t a child - he’s a thirty something year old man. It’s perfectly possible to have compassion but still feel irritated by their overall behaviour.

It is true paddyann that we have all lost someone but how many of us have the death of that person brought up in newspapers and on TV again and again and again. It seems there is an article about Diana, her life or her death every few weeks.

Any abuser who was abused as a child must be understood and not even criticised?

There are events which can happen in life which leave us devastated and the death of his mother was devastating for him but he is 35 now, he needs to live his life not his mothers,
he has not married his mother but does seem to see his mother not the woman he married.

So sad, the mother he loved has damaged him .

Obviously he’s not still a child, but parts of are own child self stay with us. That’s what makes us who we are , A sum of are parts, all unique .
Put it this way I use the same ingredients to make a Victoria sponge as it says in my book but my sponge never ever comes out how I want it to, how it should be or how someone else’s is or even the same next time around.
My natural reaction is to defend someone who I think is being picked on , perhaps because I was picked on , I could just as easily have become a bully. I am thankful that I am not, ( unless I am mistaken & you are going to tell me I am )

Our , not are, ( poor grammer!)

When she said "not many people have asked so thank you" I got the impression she meant press/public.

She wants to be our darling. On her terms.

She never said that no one in her private life has asked how she is

Meghan's family have gone strangely quiet.

For fifty years I've been a fan of the Royal family but now my patience is wearing thin. The nation took William and Harry to their hearts after the passing of Diana and followed their transition from boys to adults - often comparing to our own children (if we have them). I was critical of Waity Katy and William seeing them as lazy but how they have transformed into dignified ambassadors and future King. Harry on the other hand is now caught for better or worse in showbiz and the tears at the Childrens' awards were self indulgent and not worthy of his royal status. Along with Lewis Hamilton (racing driver) who said this week that he doesn't feel like going on, they should try living the lives of Mr and Mrs Ordinary.

Or she could be ultra paranoid about getting it right & feeling the pressure of the possibility of making a mistake.
Dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t.
The RF do exist by the same method that we all exist , they can’t do much about that.

There are also degrees of Mr & Mrs ordinary,
How privileged are we compared to the lives of those starving children we see on our TVs everyday, no change for them. I live like a Queen in comparison,
Does any one have the answers to equality ?

Cut the woman some slack. She is in an almost unique position whatever she does or doesn't do there is always a headline out of it. She is finding her way, luckily most of us don't have someone pointing a camera at us when we screw up!

If Ms really concerned about getting it right then she could be listening very carefully to all the royal advisers who have many centuries of experience to draw on. Instead I think she thought she could simply waltz in, bring a touch of celebrity glamour to the RF, use her elevated position to grandstand on issues she feels passionately about (as a woman and as a feminist blah blah), and use social media to control their image. Unfortunately the RF and tradition don’t work that way - something Harry should know by now.

Or she could be ultra paranoid about getting it right & feeling the pressure of the possibility of making a mistake

By sacking staff? Refusing to take advice? Travelling by private jet for 'jollies?' Refusing to introduce Archie to the people who pay for their lavish lifestyle, including massive dress bills?'

Funny way of getting it right.

I thought their privacy was paramount , down to even not showing photos of the baby but with the worlds press on them in Africa that all went out the window?

Its funny how the British public ( who fund them to a certain extent) are not privy to the same exposure.

I like the Royals, I don't even dislike M and H - I'm just tired of the more righteous than you attitude that they're preaching.

She is finding her way,

Sorry, but Meghan had no intention of finding her way or 'learning the ropes' as Kate put it. She announced she was going to 'hit the ground running!' That must have been fun for the members of staff who were receiving instructions via e-mail at 5am.

Anyone who got in her way was dismissed and it's reported her falling out with Kate was because she upset some of the staff at Anmer Hall when she was their guest.