bloody whinging royals

I almost feel sorry for a couple of people who are simply not meeting the expectations that have been thrust upon them.

None of this have been "thrust upon them". H is never going to be king so being a working Royal is entirely optional! They CHOSE to do it and the novelty wore off staggeringly soon, but they have options, they can just walk away from it all.

As for expectations, they are only being judged by the standards they themselves declared!

H seems to be doing it to address his demons but its clearly just making him worse

notanan he may be doing a job or whatever, the expectations of how the job should or should not be done are yours and other posters.

trisher this will be a big shock for you but we are not all alike , I can criticise without hate , no problem for me.

I feel sorry you can’t do the same

When taxpayers are paying for parts of their lifestyles then it’s only to be expected that the public form views on whether or not they are getting value for money from H&M

trisher you want rid of the royal family , yet post on a thread
about two members of the family to defend them ?

I've no doubt Annie that those who scream and make monkey noises at footballers would claim they aren't racist, but we can only judge by their words as I do yours.

What on Earth has racist chants to do with this thread ?

Oh the race card ? Carry on

I simply believe in fairness Annie I don't like the RF I'd get rid of the lot of them, but I don't seperate them out into little groups and say these people are fine but those are not. I afford them the care and respect I do to any other human being.

It’s perfectly possible to respect them as human beings whilst questioning their behaviour and poor judgment.

Perhaps it is but not on this thread SirChenjin
Annie if you don't understand why I mentioned racists who think they aren't it's because words of hatred mean hate even if you think they don't.

trisher I will not feed your need .

ITV News headlines

‘Harry confirms rift with William

I’m not seeing a lack of respect on this thread trisher - there are simply frustrations and annoyance at their behaviour imo.

We’ve been known to disagree trisher but, on this, as on other occasions, we share dislike of unkind, unpleasant and sometimes cruel comments about other human beings.

Thanks Iam64 much as I dislike the RF and I would strip them of their power and wealth I really don't understand this obsession with setting them up then knocking them down and bitching about them. They're human they make mistakes, doesn't everyone? (Do you remember when it was Charles who couldn't do anything right?) Weird isn't it!

It is great to find that I agree 100% with Trisher (don't worry T I'm sure that we will still have different views.). If we have to have a Royal head of state, then I am all for Charles.

As for H & M I suspect M's lineage has more than anything else to do with the volume of the criticisms, bearing in mind the main sources of the stories.

The rifts, well that can easily be explained by two sisters-in-law who don't get on, not an usual situation in my experience.

I watched the H and M documentary last night. Obviously slanted as the interviewer was a good friend from years back, who also spoke about his own mental health issues.
Things don’t seem to have panned out as they hoped, some of it due to themselves I’m sure.
I think Meghan has found her new royal life to be not quite what she expected. They obviously adore baby Archie, and becoming parents ASAP was always on the cards, partly due to her being well into her 30’s, and Harry just longing to be a dad, but having a bit of time and space after the wedding to adjust to her new life and role might have made things easier.
Would have enabled them to ease into it all gradually, not ‘hit the ground running’. I bet she regrets that statement.
Sadly, neither of them appeared very happy or settled with their life.

I'm with those who feel this young couple should be cut some slack. I'm pretty sure that the public's appetite for everything Royal plays no small part in the media's focus on them. I don't even like answering my doorbell if I haven't washed my hair and I let phone messages go to voicemail when I'm not in the mood to talk!!!

I also don't understand the comparisons being drawn in this thread between their lives and ours. They are just human beings like the rest of us and are subject to all of the run-of-the-mill feelings and concerns that we all have. I've read several times on Gransnet threads that no one's feelings are any more or less important than those of others.

For example, I've seen very kind posts in here from those who state that loss is loss regardless of whether it's loss the of a pet or a parent or a spouse. I'm not referring to Harry's loss here, just making the point that we urge others not diminish their own feelings in comparisons.

If they practised what they preached they would get the respect. Everyone loved those boys, how they were treated was horrendous. Megan is the stronger of the two, she's always acting, poor Harry hasn't got a chance. It is all too much for him, he needs help, to bow out for a while and get the help he needs. It's sad to see him like this.

She thinks Britishness is "unhealthy".

She doesnt like Britain! Her and H would rather not live there

She sees being a working royal as a "platform" but doesnt see the flip side, which is that in return for that "platform" she is to represent the state!

As an individual she is under no obligation to like britain or britishness etc, but as a working Royal, its pretty essential. She is not fit fot the job! And thats not a criticism of her the individual, I wouldnt be fit to be a working Royal either! But she wants to be all take no give. Gimme my platform and let me get on with it on my terms, no time taken to understand what it is she is supposed to be representing

There was also the option of H working without her, while she took time to adjust to the culture. She didnt think she needed to, which is arrogant

I have always been a fan of Harry's and I started off as a fan of Meghan too, but I can't be a hypocrite and pretend that I still am, because their actions speak louder than words.

They were visiting poverty-stricken and unfortunate places in Africa, and and then using them as a backdrop to complain about their own grievances.

Think of their plight compared to the teenage girls taking boxing lessons to fight off sexual predators who rape them with impunity. The tiny children in Angola who are still having their limbs blown off by land mines and the adults who have coped with mass killings and endless wars, not to mention a life without limbs themselves.

How could they bear witness to all of that misery and still stand in front of a camera and complain that they are just "existing" and that their life is tough? Can they not imagine how this would be perceived?

It seems to me that each time they have an opportunity to do good, they blow it and dig a big hole for themselves .... and then complain that it is the fault of the media.

What a disappointment.

I agree that they are human beings BUT being 'royal' they have set themselves above the rest of us plebs. They are happy to take the money and all of the other advantages that go with that status. In return we expect them to go around to various events and represent the country when overseas. We don't call for them to have their heads chopped off and mostly they are left to enjoy their privileges. I think that the problem with the Duchess is that she knows next to nothing about the UK. Her opinions are based on life in the USA where , despite what some think, life is very different.For example in the USA she is designated as 'black'. Over here I think if we decide to refer to ethnicity then she is 'mixed race'. She obviously thinks she has to get herself involved in issues of race and in consequence leaves out the rest of the UK. FWIW , I think that the negative comments aren't racist but frustration that she seems to be oblivious to what life in the UK is like coupled with a feeling that she doesn't want to find out about us ALL. If I could give her a message it would be; stop doing so much, try observing, learning and listening , ditch a lot of your advisers and take on someone who understands British life. You might end up being loved by us then.
And I am not a monarchist , and I don't wish her harm.

Sparklefizz - having my breakfast cup of tea and ‘composing’ a post in my head - then saw that you’d written exactly what I was thinking! I only saw part of last night’s programme, but I was shocked at their insensitivity in talking of their “problems” with such backdrops of poverty and true hardship. Thoughtless, arrogant and doing themselves no favours. The same programme could have been quite effective in highlighting the issues in parts of Africa, without incorporating their “issues”.