For brexiters only please.

I think you are purposely having a dig. I do post facts.

Jesus wept, Ug!

EU won't allow teabag recycling. So untrue I can't even find anything connecting the EU with teabags. Asked you for a link. Nothing

*EU won't allow children under the age of 8 to blow up balloons*: Untrue. So I post a debunking of that straight from the EU. How more factual can you get?

*EU accounts haven't been audited for 20 years*; Untrue. They've been audited every year since 1995. Full Fact do not get things wrong

EU forces us to put VAT on Tampax. Untrue. EU stopped that in 2016.

I'm not trying to chase you from thread to thread about this but your protestations of truth telling are making my eyes pop. It's not even a question of 'different experts'. If you believe those things you've been fed lies and lapped them up.

Urm disingenuous or what? I thought you were better than that.

How do you think I’m being disingenuous sw? I’m really not.

MaizieD you are hounding me! Well it feels like it as you’ve jumped on this thread to, to talk about another thread. Isn’t that against the rules?

suziewoozie
As I said earlier, I’ll post on any thread I wish to and no poster has any right to decide who a thread is for.

Sorry but the remain cabal try to evict everyone who contradicts their view from every thread. Take a look.
I don’t give a sxxt, I can take the intimidatory snipes and I have had plenty. I have been on this site a number of years , and I have watched as quite a number of really good intelligent posters who presented good arguments being hounded off the site, by constant personal jibes and snide comments and emojis . Those who do the personal attacks go on to boast about their success. These are no better than junior school bullies and their postings only go to confirm this. I find it interesting and sad that mature women (and men) still find this acceptable behaviour.

Urm disingenuous????? You're kidding suziewoozie, you've been goading and baiting for the whole thread, I think Urmstongran's last post was very civil and restrained, all things considered. She has far more patience with all of the shouting, bad-loser "I want another referendum or I'll stamp my foot" remainer brigade than me. There was a democratic vote, we voted to leave, get over it. Let's get it done and move on, FFS.

Hurrah; Gove says he's triggered [triggering] operation Yellowhammer so things are getting really exciting now! Can't wait....

Report me, then, Ug.

I wouldn't do this normally because I know about the T & C, but I am very cross. Perhaps you could respond on the tread in question?

Opal perhaps you would be so kind as to link to where I’ve said I’ll stamp my foot if I don’t get another referendum. In fact I’d love to know where I posted my views on a second referendum. But never mind, keep up the great Brexiter tradition of just making it all up as you go along. ????

Or even the thread...

But never mind, keep up the great Brexiter tradition of just making it all up as you go along. ????

See what I mean!

So are you saying you don't want a second referendum then sw? Blimey, you're the first remainer I've come across that doesn't want one then.

But leavers on this thread didn't "open up about hopes and aspirations" did they?

They claimed annoyance at remainers having the audacity to voice their opinions on a thread to which they had been instructed not to contribute. A rather silly stance since leavers had access and opportunity to provide "positive" examples of all the advantages the UK would be likely to have as a result of leaving the EU. Someone did mention several times in one post that they had "dreams" - but there was no specificity as to what those dreams might be or how they could be achieved.

Urmstongram You have made several claims as to EU regulations - re-cycling of tea bags, etc, etc, - but you have not given details of the source of this information. Maizie on the other hand has provided links to refute your claims. You then accuse her of "hounding" you. If you don't want to back up the claims you make, then don't object to being challenged, and don't present yourself as some sort of victim.

Opal I’m saying that you made up things about me, made lazy unfounded assumptions with no evidence base just like a true Brexiter

Hardly unfounded sw, surely all remainers want a second referendum, don't they?

@aprilrose, It will be really good not to have to pay the EU 1 billion pounds every month and would have gone up to 17 billion had we stayed. Once we leave we will be able to spend our money how we choose.

Can anyone give clear concise reasoning for remaining that would convince a leave voter of the apparent error of their ways.
All I have ever seen on here are remain voters dismissing as rubbish any postings by leave voters and constantly asking for leavers to justify their decisions.
Please remainers, can you justify your decisions?

Eloethan
blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/teabags-banned-from-being-recycled/

Joel I honestly think that there is no clear concise reason for leaving or remaining that would now convince someone holding the opposite view of the error of their ways. It seems to me that the situation is way beyond this. Basically I believe we are just well and truly f***ed. GN demonstrates this just as well as everywhere else.

But that seems to be as a result of BSE which, I think, originated in this country and was passed on by us to Europe [?]. Or have I misread it?

Remaining in the EU reduces the risk of 'the troubles' staring up again with the added risk of the IRA targeting Britain. I can't believe that anyone wants to go back to those terrible times.

Labaik, Trimble the author of the GDA has clearly stated that Boris deal will not break GFA or that troubles should start up again. Checks are not in Ireland.

The rest of UK should not be held hostage in EU just because people in Ireland want to blow each other up.

I'm forever a Brexiteer. I never wanted to join the Common Market in the first place in 1973 when Heath took us in by stealth, and I voted out in Wilson's referendum of 1975. I'm disappointed with Boris as his new deal is just a rehash of May's and is really just BRINO, as the EU would still have a lot of control over us. I would prefer to leave with NO DEAL. It would be a rocky road at first, I don't doubt, but for the long term it would be for the best as the UK could make all its own decisions in all areas. I am sick to death of Remainers trying to overturn a democratic vote, saying I must be stupid and that the referendum was unlawful.

Labiak
I don’t think there is any appetite amongst the majority Irish population to restart fisticuffs. If I were Irish I would feel a little offended to think that rest of UK thought that way.
However if they really wanted to restart trouble being in or out of EU would not stop them. Look at recent issues in Spain and France.

One of my best friends for many many years who is Irish and lived close to the Falls Road where some of worst violence occurred when growing up, told me that both sides in Ireland try to point score from the other side. She is Catholic but readily admits she knew of gangs of Catholics who used to hit Protestants they caught with pieces of wood with nails hammered through them. Protestants did similar barbaric things to Catholics too according to her. She lives in UK now but travels back several times each year to see her family who still live there and she says things are better in Ireland but a lot of the old animosities still remain and things like Orange marches stirs it all up each year.

Lots of leave supporters not happy with Johnson’s deal which is basically the same as May’s one with a bit of wording changed “backstop” becomes “ alternative customs arrangements” and the wool is pulled over the desperate deluded eyes. Brexit is going so well isn’t it, this thread just amounts to rubbishing the EU with repeating all the old myths and claiming how “we” are all going to be rolling in clover when our esteemed politicians and useless government will bestow us all with untold riches ( or may be they’ll just cut taxes for all their chums).