For Remainers Only

Interesting post (Today 07:36) Whitewave* but we can see the level of the use of language in the post previous to that. And the leavers then have the cheek to feel insulted because, as a group, the have been statistically defined as less well educated. I don't think statistics are needed when all we get is name calling and the constant repetition of propaganda phrases.

All of em of course!

So say it to the person who introduced the subject MaizieD.... or am I not allowed to comment unless I agree always with you?

You have a talent for missing the point, don't you, Pantglas

The 'subject' was introduced on this thread because, not one, but two Leavers, said, in effect, that the description of 'the sick man of Europe' hadn't been used of Britain in the 70s. The person who introduced it produced evidence that the phrase had indeed been used to describe Britain in the 70s.
This was a perfectly appropriate use of this thread, IMO.

What you are doing is trying to start a discussion about why Britain was in that state and, it appears, how our recovery had nothing to do with EU membership. Which is an interesting topic which some of us would be happy to pursue. But it would be better on a new thread as it could get confusing on this one which already has several strands.

That's all. Nothing sinister, nor an attempt to shut you up.

Let’s not get into appropriate use of threads when remainers spend more time on the ‘ brexiters only please ‘ thread than their own! Again, we’ll agree to differ!

Sod it, then, pantglas. I was only trying to be helpful.

As I said Brexit has become a cult

I’ll borrow your phrase ‘Oh dear’ MaizieD!

I seriously do enjoy these debates and see them as a learning experience, finding out about how different opinions are formed and I like to throw my tuppence worth in and see who thinks I’m on the right or wrong track. I’m happy to have a difference of opinion with anyone without getting huffy, as I’ve said to you before.

Must be incredibly frustrating for all the superior beings having to put up with all the plebs and their ignorant opinions! You do realise that frustration and anger are bad for your health?

Brexit is likely to be bad for yours and other cult members. Tell me of one cult were the members were not the ones who paid?

Very interesting to hear a Conservative MP say that he believes, with others in his party that "a Vote Leave Campaign clique has taken over the party and has run the party like a campaign instead of a government and that up until and including the decision on Prorogation the decisions all went wrong".

If this is the influence they have on our country heaven help us as their fingers in far too many pies to give us healthy government.

GGMK3 As the Government is so “bad” you think the opposition parties would be clamouring for a GE, but no
they just keep coming up with lame excuses not to hold one?

Such a pity those MPs don't collapse their government, then, GGMK". Why keep supporting such a worthless and ineffective PM?

GG13

The opposition parties just wanted Johnson to twist in the wind for a bit longer. I see he's not doing himself any favours with the BP lot... A split vote will go down very nicely, thank you.

I don't know if you've noticed it but the opposition seem to be more in favour of a GE now that our exit has been deferred for a few more months.

MaizieD the opposition may or may not agree to an election later on today.

And if they try to make changes the Tories may or may not pull the Bill.

So it still may or may not happen ?

I can assure you growstuff, I am not a snowflake. My friends would find it very funny if you mentioned my name and "snowflake" in the same sentence, it's so far from the truth. Neither have I ever called remainers "vile and aggressive", I don't think they are either. They just don't agree with my opinion on Brexit, and that's fine.

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Mike Buckley
@mdbuckley

So this week Johnson has:

✅Melted down hundreds of thousands of 31 Oct 50p coins
✅Given up £7bn windfall from European Investment Bank
✅Spent £2bn on needless No Deal preparations
✅Spent £100 million on 31 October Get Ready ads
✅Failed to leave EU

Sir John Curtis has made a surprising prediction. That there will be more than 100 MPs that do not belong to either Tory or labour.

If that is the case then Johnson must get a substantial majority or Brexit is stymied .

GGMK3 As the Government is so “bad” you think the opposition parties would be clamouring for a GE, but no they just keep coming up with lame excuses not to hold one?

Just heard some talking about ordinary, non-Brexit politics and it was quite refreshing. I do not feel "tribal" GG13 so I can't say I'm bothered about what the opposition parties are doing or not doing. Once a GE is underway I shall listen and make up my mind. However, in the back of it will be the complete pig's ear the Tories have made both of government and of everything to do with the EU including the original referendum.

Interesting WW. Also interesting is the result of the only poll that asked people's opinion "if 'Brexit' had not gone through". Labour were one point ahead.

Not surprising when most folk want to stop brexit.

GE on now for Dec 12th as the government wanted (just got to get through the Lords.)
No 16 year olds or EU nationals will be voting in it.

Ten Conservative ‘rebels’ back in the fold.