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Remainers must vote tactically

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 30-Oct-19 08:13:32

Just that really.

Gina Miller will be advising the best way and who to vote for.

I’ll post it as it comes into notice.

Buffybee Thu 31-Oct-19 19:51:39

jura2 if that question was to me. I have just stated exactly what I am going to do and how I will vote.
I really can't see the point in answering your hypothetical question.

Urmstongran Thu 31-Oct-19 20:11:03

No, I do get it Scj and jura
I just happen to think differently to both of you regarding this GE.

Domestic policy is obviously important and would usually be all about what the parties propose. (That said, since the referendum, bluddy manifestos aren’t worth the paper they’re written on!)

This time round Brexit looms over everything.

jura2 Thu 31-Oct-19 20:25:21

Buffybee- fair enough- so I take it you would not vote tactically. Thanks.

Urmstongran, hold on to your knicker elastic here-
but I actually agree with you ;)

Urmstongran Thu 31-Oct-19 20:36:04

WOWZER❗️❗️

jura a first (or actually a second, if my memory serves me!)
?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 31-Oct-19 20:47:54

Best For Britain
@BestForBritain

With those on the Leave side being called on to form a pact by Donald Trump of all people, it's crucial that Remainers use their votes wisely.

But if just a third of Remainers vote tactically at this election, Boris Johnson will be prevented from winning a majority.

grapefruitpip Thu 31-Oct-19 20:52:04

What on earth has it got to do with Trump???

Pantglas2 Thu 31-Oct-19 20:55:31

It’s all very well for remainers and brexiters to vote tactically to try and get what they want, they have certainty on what they want to achieve- in or out.

What about someone like me who didn’t vote because I didn’t know enough and trying to get a straight answer on things is like drawing hens teeth! I can’t be the only undecided can I?

Urmstongran Thu 31-Oct-19 20:56:13

What on Earth had it to do with Obama?
Or Guy Verhofstadt when he came over to canvass with the Lib Dem’s?

Different strokes for Remainers (again).

Talking of the Lib Dems ...
They are already up to dirty tricks.

Bogus tactical voting site - best for britain - telling people to vote lib dems in seats that are labour/tory marginal e;g; Hastings where the tory won by a few hundred seats with labour a close 2nd and lib dem vote in the low 1000's

Site not up front about being a lib dem campaign site.

More interested in splitting anti tory vote than getting tories out - as always enabling tories.

When parties fight dirty like this it's because they have nothing positive to offer the electorate.

SirChenjin Thu 31-Oct-19 20:56:40

I don’t agree Urm - I think when it comes down to it people will vote roughly along the same lines as always, ie left or right. It’s just to what extent they’ll be prepared to move but one way or the other.

It’s all moot up here though as we’re moving to an independent Scotland and it will be very interesting to see what happens in N Ireland/Ireland now that Boris has shafted the DUP.

grapefruitpip Thu 31-Oct-19 21:03:37

What on Earth had it to do with Obama?

He, at least, is a half decent human being.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 31-Oct-19 21:21:49

The six year old is back I see. Never mind Whitewave many grownups will be thanking you and looking forward to seeing what is suggested as the best anti-leave vote. We can then decide which way we want to go.

Urmstongran Fri 01-Nov-19 06:24:56

Am I the 6 year old?? GGmk3 I don’t understand why?
Or did you mean Trump?

Ginny42 Fri 01-Nov-19 06:46:17

More than 50 MPs are not standing this time. Worryingly some women are citing abuse as the reason why they've reached this decision. Why would you want to face vile abuse every day just for going to work?

That surely cuts it very fine for all parties to have candidates in place for a Dec 12th election? It's all too rushed and should not have happened until after a public vote on the so called plan.

It's going to be difficult focusing on voting for how we perceive the future, from a place where we don't actually know where we are. If you see what I mean.

Urmstongran Fri 01-Nov-19 07:14:42

This election will be such a shocker for the establishment because MPs cannot grasp how out of sync they are with the country.

SirChenjin Fri 01-Nov-19 07:42:01

I know - those old Etonians and other top public schoolboys and girls, the last bastion of the very worst of the establishment, haven’t got a clue, have they.

Urmstongran Fri 01-Nov-19 07:53:27

That’s one way of looking at it Scj

I view the situation differently (of course)! I’ll be glad to see the back of some of these duplicitous MP’s. Their implication that the British public, which has patiently and peacefully endured three years of their nonsense, are loathsome bullies, is fooling nobody.

Bring out the ballot box!

growstuff Fri 01-Nov-19 07:55:16

That went through my mind too SirChenjin. I'm baffled by the genius who managed to persuade people who the establishment are. Johnson is the archetypal representative of the establishment. He was at Addenbrookes Hospital in Cambridge yesterday for a PR stunt. Unfortunately for him, it went wrong and the public and staff started booing him as he left. I'm guessing his minders will keep him away from the plebs from now on. He and his government are the ones who don't have a clue and seem to be treating everything like a huge game.

Cummings & Co aren't anti-establishment. What they hate is that they aren't members of a particular clique and want to start their own clique. Farage is the same, except he's in a different clique. Cummings and Farage hate each other. Take a step back and it's like the Medieval aristocracy fighting each other and tossing out goodies to boost the numbers of foot soldiers.

growstuff Fri 01-Nov-19 07:56:18

Who has implied that the British public are bullies? confused

growstuff Fri 01-Nov-19 07:58:01

Do you mean people like Iain Duncan Smith, whose constituency voted to remain in the EU?

Urmstongran Fri 01-Nov-19 08:08:40

Who has implied that the British public are bullies?

MP’s like Heidi Allen, Anna Soubry (the tough old boot), Antoinette Sandbach, Jess Phillips, Yvette Cooper to name a few.

I’m sure I wasn’t the only one smiling broadly yesterday whilst reading through the 
list of MPs who are no longer standing!

Yehbutnobut Fri 01-Nov-19 08:44:39

I am in a marginal seat, until 2017 it was Conservative but a very good Labour man got in at that last election. I’m hoping he will be returned with an increased majority.

Yehbutnobut Fri 01-Nov-19 08:46:53

You were smiling because Ken Clarke is no longer standing?

SirChenjin Fri 01-Nov-19 08:50:40

Cummings & Co aren't anti-establishment. What they hate is that they aren't members of a particular clique and want to start their own clique. Farage is the same, except he's in a different clique. Cummings and Farage hate each other. Take a step back and it's like the Medieval aristocracy fighting each other and tossing out goodies to boost the numbers of foot soldiers
Exactly growstuff

I'm interested in your claim that these politicians have implied the British public are bullies. Can you elaborate Urm?

Urmstongran Fri 01-Nov-19 08:55:54

Ken Clarke deserves his retirement. It’s long overdue.
I was smiling for him, yes.

SirChenjin Fri 01-Nov-19 08:57:13

Long overdue in what way?