Happy to discuss politics in a measured and considered way. Your politics are obvious from your post and I am tired of sweeping statements from all sides based on whipped up feelings. Take NHS and my experience. In the last 6 years I have seen massive improvements in my local hospital. I get to see a GP quickly and both my husband and I have benefitted from fast referrals and swift diagnosis and treatment. Appointments are well managed and in time. So something is being done and improving. I want that level of service maintained. 21 years ago I was seriously Ill and grateful to the NHS for my recovery. Staff then were overworked toilets were never cleared of samples and management seemed chaotic. Fast forward to early 2000 same hospital and my husband was Ill. Great GP picked up on something quickly and he was admitted. Dirty wards same problem overworked staff. Note the dates. To think NHS is safe in labour hands does not match my experience. And who are these privileged people where is the bar set? Am I privileged because I had a good state education at a time when teaching assistants didn't exist and there were 43 pupils in my class at primary school. My background is working class. I had hard times too, not knowing where next penny was coming from. I worked, studied with OU ,(the best thing Labour ever introduced) forged a reasonable career, own my home and have a reasonably comfortable life. This through my own effort so what side of the bar do I sit. Who is speaking for the majority of hard working honest people?