Mogg

Iam64, I wholeheartedly agree with your above post, you and I have often disagreed in regard to many subjects on this forum without it degrading to making personal comments against each other.

However, with anniebach she does readily make any forum conversation with her "personal" at the first instance available to her I find.

Her consistent reference to the Aberfan Disaster in threads often to make a political point against the Labour Party or the trade union movement I find also particularly unpleasant.

Now, let's get back to Jacob Reece Mogg and his untold judgments.

M0nica, I too read JRM's remarks in exactly the same way as you. It was perhaps put rather badly, but I'm absolutely sure that he meant no disrespect or criticism to the people of Grenfell and has apologised profusely for any unintended offense or hurt.

You're very welcome Annie.?

Gonegirl love your feisty remarks.

Monica, an excellent post at 17.54 echoing pretty much what I posted up thread.

Oooh gonegirl I don’t swear and the f word never passes my lips but oh boy do I agree with your 17.32.57 post.

annie is one of the nicest, kindest and most caring posters on GN and anyone who speaks ill of her has opinions that I don’t support.

There are several posters on this thread and the many other political threads who think that if they post pages and pages of so called information they will convince us they are right and we are wrong. I’m not surprised if people can’t be bothered to read it all.

Doodle, you are 100% correct about Annie, she is one of the kindest and most caring posters on Gransnet, and many of us have benefited from her compassion.

I agree with everything else you’ve said Doodle, and I have to say again Gonegirl’s posts often make me laugh, she calls a spade a spade.

Doodle Quote [ Annie is one of the nicest, kindest and most caring posters on GN and anyone who speaks ill of her has opinions that I don’t support. ]End Quote.

So Annie is one of the kindest most caring people on the forum, is she?

Well, judge this, Anniebach stated in the thread "Call Off The Dogs Corbyn" on the 08/09/18 @ 6:46pm that "all union members during the Blair government years were Male, single and childless"

I kept a record of that post as I was so disgusted by it I seriously considered forwarding it to the Equalities Commission as without doubt it contravenes the Equalities Act 2010 in regard to incitement.

However, I now leave it to others to judge if anniebach has a long-standing record of caring, kindness, fairness, accuracy and judgment in all her posts on this forum.

There have been many posts similar to the above by anniebach since the above date.

Grandad1943 anniebachhas a consistent record on political threads of slagging of fthe Labour party and Corbyn. She claims to have a long history of membership and support for that party. But somehow she seems to have forgotten what the party stood for before Tony Blair.If I can give you some advice it isn't worth engaging. It's illogical bias without reason or justification. She may be a delightful, caring supportive person but on political threads she is just unreasonable.

Oh please!
Give it a rest Grandad43 Your many posts on this thread about Anniebach border on the obsessive.
Your own posts on this subject are far from kind/ fair/ accurate.
Get back to Mogg....or are you bored with him already.

Grandad - I'm not sure what you hope to achieve by your post at 20.41pm today.

You refer to a post by Anniebach on 08.09.18 at 6.46pm that 'all union members during the Blair government years were male, single and childless". You go on to say:

"I kept a record of that post as I was so disgusted by it I seriously considered forwarding it to the Equalities Commission as without doubt it contravenes the Equalities Act 2010 in regard to incitement"

Incitement to what?

I recognise I'm adding to the way this nonsense continues, so I should make a cup of camomile tea instead of saying any more

sorry folks, x posted there with trisher and lemon grove.

I stand by what I said grandad. I have read many of annies posts on many threads and stick by my opinion. There is more to life than politics. Thank goodness.

Standing on the sidelines and reading some of these threads reminds me that perspective is the first casualty in politics- to a fascist, Anniebach would be a red under the bed and to a communist she’s a rabid right winger!

Just wandered back on to this thread and I'm hearing the theme from the Twilight Zone.

What is everyone on about?

Lemon, I second what you posted at 20.50.

Could we all just stop this bullying of Annie, yes you read that correctly, some (by no means all) are bullying Annie. Can we just drop it?

Everyone has a 'perspective'. Pantglas, you just described two of them.

If you mean that everyone should be middle of the road why should that be at all desirable?

Personally I don’t like extremes MaizieD - or the people who attack folks they perceive to be more left or right than themselves.

We all have out tragedies, personal or otherwise. Many here will have witnessed or been caught up in terrible things.

Nobody really knows do they?

Give it a rest gfp, please do.

I asked a question ‘ so all union members during the Blair government years were Male, single and childless ? ‘

This question was asked during a discussion of what was accomplished during the Blair years, ‘Sure Start, etc, as children and usually mothers benefitted .

Grandad43 posted

However, that does not excuse the affiliation fees taken from often poorly paid trade union members throughout the Blair government years and doing absolutely nothing for those members in return.

We are told what a lovely place the Labour Party was for its members during those years and "how nice everybody was to one another".

Well, it was all paid for by those trade union members and now times have changed, and we now have a Labour party that is putting those peoples interests as first priority.

Tough for those who just want to take their money.

end of his post

If the Blair government did nothing I asked that question

‘So all union members in the Blair government years were
Male, single and childless ? ‘

Iam64, I will keep this just to what occurred in the thread I sighted in regard to anniebach.

I had in a post stated that I had retained my Unite Union membership in appreciation of what that organisation had done for my basic education during the years 1970-1980 anniebach responded with the remark I sighted of hers in my post @20:41 today.

So, I will leave it to others to judge if that was a kind, caring and non-inciting remark.

So once again I will take my leave of the thread, for now.

Interesting isn't it that a thread about the absolutely disgusting remarks made by a Tory minister in the last government who has previously been see lying down on a bench in Parliament has been totally abandoned and become a Labour criticism thread. Let's realise that there are people who really don't want anyone criticising people like JRM. Butreally if that person was the gentleman he pretends he would have resigned. Even the Victorians. had morals and standards.

Annie please, you have many supporters on this thread, but I do think, asNatasha says, we should give this personal disagreement a rest and return to the broad subject of this thread

This thread is all about Jacob Rees-Mogg, the Gaulieter of the Conservative party. Unfortunately over the last few days he has been playing. Can we hope that this silence will be prolonged?