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Tory election not going well is it?

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 06-Nov-19 08:33:03

Just that

Whitewavemark2 Wed 06-Nov-19 13:27:26

Ed Vaizey stands down.

Anyone left?

Tooting29 Wed 06-Nov-19 13:40:29

I sense a certain gloating from the OP

Tooting29 Wed 06-Nov-19 13:42:47

Better not mention Vaz then.

suziewoozie Wed 06-Nov-19 13:44:30

Mention KV as you wish, doesn’t invalidate anything posted on this thread, or don’t you realise that?

suziewoozie Wed 06-Nov-19 13:45:17

Not so much gloating as telling it how it is

Keeper1 Wed 06-Nov-19 13:51:29

It is interesting to note the apologies for anti Semitic tweets from some Labour candidates

Whitewavemark2 Wed 06-Nov-19 15:47:42

More lies from Johnson on day one of his bid to win the election.

The BBC has outlined the lie

t.co/AoYlGB7gV6?amp=1

Urmstongran Wed 06-Nov-19 17:17:29

Oh my goodness what a feeding frenzy on here of anti Tory piranhas! Makes one nervous to dip a toe in the waters! ATTACK, ATTACK!

Just for a bit of balance, in the light that Alun Davis has been mentioned on this thread, what about the breaking news about theclose ally of Jeremy Corbyn who has been kicked out as a Labour MP today after being accused of being an apologist for anti-Semitism?

Chris Williamson has been blocked from standing in his Derby North seat by party bigwigs after an investigation into his behaviour.

The MP was suspended in February after he claimed that Labour had been 'too apologetic' in response to criticism of its handling of anti-Semitism allegations.

And the party's National Executive Committee today blocked his return, meaning his parliamentary career appears to be over.

Can we all maybe step back and be less partisan?

All sides in this election bun feast have awful characters!

Urmstongran Wed 06-Nov-19 17:18:27

*Cairns, not Davis.

suziewoozie Wed 06-Nov-19 17:54:31

Nope - some of us are discussing the bad start the Tories have had. You are perfectly free to put in the Labour issues but they don’t make the Tory ones disappear do they?

suziewoozie Wed 06-Nov-19 17:57:04

And don’t worry Urm your side’s turn will come. Both Lab and Lib Dems will have their moments

Whitewavemark2 Wed 06-Nov-19 18:00:11

What we know to be true.
Evolve Politics

Isn't it funny that when the media are actually forced by law to hold the Tories to account - rather than pandering like simpering lackeys during the rest of the non-General Election period - they start imploding en-masse.

suziewoozie Wed 06-Nov-19 18:53:28

That’s a good point WW. The best video I saw on the doctored intervuew made by a BBC journalist - doubt it would have been made if we hadn’t been in the election period

M0nica Wed 06-Nov-19 19:03:55

Both parties seem to be equally adept at shooting themselves in the foot - and I am sure that they will continue to do so at regular intervals for the rest of the campaign until election day.

lemongrove Wed 06-Nov-19 19:47:07

Monica grin

varian Wed 06-Nov-19 19:53:25

Alun Cairns resigns in Ross England rape trial 'sabotage' row

A UK cabinet minister has resigned over claims he knew about a former aide's role in the "sabotage" of a rape trial.

Welsh Secretary Alun Cairns denied knowing a Tory Welsh assembly candidate had made claims about a woman's sexual history in a rape trial in April 2018, causing the case to collapse.

BBC Wales found he was sent an email about the case over a year ago - he said he only heard about it last week.

Mr Cairns, who intends to stand again for Parliament, denies any wrongdoing.

His former aide, Ross England, was chosen as the Vale of Glamorgan candidate for the 2021 Welsh assembly election in December 2018 - four months after the email about him was sent to Mr Cairns.

At the time of his selection to stand as an AM, Mr Cairns endorsed Mr England as a "friend and colleague" with whom "it will be a pleasure to campaign".

What this amounts to is a Tory Cabinet Minister having to admit that he lied. When are Boris Johnson's lies going to be a reason for him to resign?

HootyMcOwlface Wed 06-Nov-19 19:59:24

Britain deserves better - is their slogan. Yes we bloody well do! Laughable isn’t it, have they forgotten who is and has been in govt all these years?!

suziewoozie Wed 06-Nov-19 20:05:31

But the last 36 hours has been mostly Tory shooting has it not?

varian Wed 06-Nov-19 20:16:32

Tories shooting themselves in the foot.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 07-Nov-19 08:32:55

Johnson launch

Has anyone had the chance to compare what appears to be a very crowded room to the actual shots not shown on tv?

The room was 80% empty with the majority of the audience composing the media and minders.

That was embarrassing.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 07-Nov-19 08:35:04

What I find incredibly difficult is to find a policy that can be sensibly talked about that isn’t a lie.

I can’t remember such a dismal start.

Perhaps the manifesto will buck things up.

rubysong Thu 07-Nov-19 09:17:46

Boot on the other foot this morning. That's elections for you. Always unexpected things happening on all sides. It's a good reason not to go for a postal vote; who knows what will happen on the final day.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 07-Nov-19 09:21:55

ruby what boot is that?

MawB Thu 07-Nov-19 09:26:56

Yesterday was certainly not a great day for the Tory campaign was it?
To paraphrase Michael Deacon in the DT, to the untrained eye it may have looked like a cavalcade of howlers and own goals.
Well, yesterday a Cabinet minister resigned an hour before the Prime Minister’s first campaign speech. But perhaps that was just to distract from the humiliation of Tory chairman James Cleverly on Sky News.
Which itself was perhaps designed to distract from a disastrous interview on Radio 4 by Andrew Bridgen. Which in turn was a pretty useless attempt to distract from a disastrous interview about Grenfell by Jacob Rees-Mogg. Which in turn might have been hoped to distract from the Government’s failure to build any of the starter homes it promised. Which in its turn was perhaps intended distract from the Government’s refusal to publish the report on electoral interference by Russia. Which in turn .…
The point is: everything’s under control, and there’s absolutely no need to worry.
Shortly after accepting the resignation of Alun Cairns as Welsh secretary, the Prime Minister made a statement outside No 10. The aim was to jump-start the Tory campaign, but hmmhmm

Urmstongran Thu 07-Nov-19 09:33:17

Labour election not going well either, is it?