Corbyn

That photo of Corbyn laying wreaths in Munich has been already been debunked. He wasn't laying a wreath for the Munich terrorists.

Annie:
Corbyn was a supporter of the I.R.A. He was a supporter of Hamas. ^He is anti semetic (sic)

You are still saying the same things, despite all the other proof that none of this is true.
Corbyn has always been willing to talk to terrorists. Eventually, it was talking that obtained the Good Friday agreement. While there may well be anti-semites, and Islamophobes, in both main parties, Corbyn himself is not.
Supporting the Palestinians against the Israeli state is not anti-semitic.

Did you see that video a couple of days ago of Israeli soldiers, making a man walk away with his hands on his head, then shooting him dead when he almost got to the corner. I think a lot of Jewish people would be as appalled at that as I am.

Corbyn and the wreath laying has been debunked ?

Corbyn said ‘I was there but I don’t know if I was involved ‘

That’s debunking the myth ?

I don't believe Corbyn was ever a supporter of the IRA however he was a supporter of Sinn Fein who were looked upon as the political wing of the IRA.

He had nothing to do with the Good Friday Agreement (this was brokered between the UK and Irish Governments and signed by Mo Mowlam and David Andrews)

Yes Anniebach. The bodies of the terrorists were in the same graveyard, but people who were actually there have confirmed that Corbyn probably didn't even know about the graves.

He was laying a wreath in memory of dozens of Palestinians and Tunisians, including civilians, killed by an Israeli air attack on the PLO headquarters in Tunisia on 1 October 1985, an act that was condemned at the time by the UN and Margaret Thatcher’s Conservative government. This is an annual ceremony which is held by Palestinians and Tunisians to mourn the dead in that attack.

Here you are, Annie

The Corbyn Wreath Row Explained

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45196409

Should we cordon off an area for people to say what they dislike about the man?
That way , there would be no need for the endless dredging up?

I happen to agree with GracesGran. She's correct in many ways !

People have short memories. There are also young voters who will not know of the personal history of our current politicians. Doesn't do any harm to keep them informed.

Yes, he said ‘I was there but I don’t think I was actively involved in it’ .

A wreath laying ceremony for terrorists who murdered Olympic athletes and he didn’t think he was actively involved!

And cordon off an area for people to say what they dislike about all the party leaders ?

You've watched the BBC clip, I assume, Annie?

It is in the BBC clip, you didn’t watch it I assume Maizie

Corbyn

Judge us on whether we’ve built a million genuinely affordable homes so that decent and secure housing is within the reach of everybody.

“Judge us on whether in-work poverty still exists in five years’ time

“Judge us on whether people are still sleeping rough after five years of a Labour government.

“Judge us on whether proud women and men are still having to depend on food banks five years into a Labour government

“Judge us on whether we’ve unleashed a Green Industrial Revolution, created hundreds of thousands of green energy jobs in the communities that need them most, and significantly reduced our greenhouse emissions.

“We don’t have any time to waste.”

I do wonder what it is that stirs up such vitriol from some posters. I think perhaps they find anyone who has good basic principles a kick to their conscience. They know that ultimately war and terrorism are wrong. They know they should be worked against and combated, but they do nothing. So they turn on anyone who has a history of working to stop such things. They make false accusations and refuse to change their views even in the face of evidence.
As for 16 year olds voting Why not? After all if we have a fixed term 5 year Parliament they may vote at 16 but won't have another untl they are 21 and 15 year olds won't get a choice till they are 20.

But Corbyn thinks 16 year olds are immature

Vitriol is coming from both sides. Just look at the Mogg thread.

Unsubstantiated vitriol which has been proved wrong but which is still repeated? Or fair comment on a stupid remark?

To be fair, I think the first remark in the OP shows compassion.

Don't agree with the second remark though.

It’s all the same. If you are a Labour supporter it’s bash the Conservatives and if Conservative supporter its bash Labour. Just wondering in all these political threads where each side think they are in the right and everyone else is wrong whether anyone has been swayed by the arguments of either side to change their voting plans.

Doodle,
Your views are positively dangerous.

People lose faith in the political process and they lose faith in democracy at it's core.
I and many others are of the view this was a deliberate strategy on behalf of some (yes tories) so that people would cease engaging in the political process.

Guess what, you have lost it. We are continuing to engage, and all the young people along with us.

And yes, I do think it is important to engage in debate.
And yes, I do think Corbyn is a man of principle.
And yes, I do think he would do a fantastic job.

painting

Just as a matter of interest.....knowing nothing about the procedure.....when a person decides to stand as an MP, surely checks are made on the person's background, history, membership of organisations,etc.

Surely someone who has proved themselves to be anti-British (as is suggested by the facts stated about Corbyn), they would not be permitted to be a member of Parliament?

I don’t disagree about debate painting but from all the threads I have read on GN there has been little debate more dogmatic I am right and you are wrong from both sides. I was merely asking if anyone’s vote had been swayed by comments from either side.

Doodle, no-one in their right mind would be influenced by the comments made on Gransnet.

Kind of where I was coming from ladymuck