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Corbyn not at Festival of Remembrance

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Opal Sun 10-Nov-19 08:38:26

Disgraceful non-attendance by Corbyn. No excuses - there are none.

rafichagran Sun 10-Nov-19 11:09:18

Yes I have just seen Corbyn there wearing his Red Poppy. Glad he showed respect and attended today.

GracesGranMK3 Sun 10-Nov-19 11:09:52

Of course he is anno. We have just seen two pages of fake news on GN.

How about the Tory paper's printing Corbyn visits firefighters and those suffering from the floods

But that doesn't get this lying chaos of a Tory government off the hook, does it?

Ninat474 Sun 10-Nov-19 11:11:17

Well, it appears he has laid a wreath - just heard on radio. Perhaps some people should not be quite so quick to condemn

trisher Sun 10-Nov-19 11:12:16

rafichagran could you at least be consistent? Who or what people support is up to them, but they should do so knowing the full extent of what is involved. The RBL do not honour all war dead. They have reluctantly and after much pressure agreed to extend their remit. But they have always supported just the British military dead. They have in the process totally hi-jacked the meaning of the red poppy, after WW1 that war should never happen again. The White poppy was established in the 1930s to continue that belief.
As for telling people what they should do I'm not the one saying Corbyn should be at a ceremony that lacks not only gravitas but also quality.

merlotgran Sun 10-Nov-19 11:12:43

Has anyone said Corbyn wouldn't be at the Cenotaph to lay a wreath?

Gonegirl Sun 10-Nov-19 11:13:36

Well, he's at the Cenotaph. That's the important one.

(I thought Lindsay was going to topple as he turned round [shock)

lemongrove Sun 10-Nov-19 11:14:05

Nina.....he has to!

GracesGranMK3 Sun 10-Nov-19 11:14:59

Exactly Nina, but in some ways, it could be excused as it was all over the Sun, the Express and one of the others whose name I can't remember.

What we need is proper journalism, not constant opinion columns which are picked up by those who don't like experts, don't do referencing and don't care much about the truth.

Gonegirl Sun 10-Nov-19 11:15:16

I think there would have been a major outcry if he hadn't been at this one. grin

I thought Boris looked like a slightly befuddled overgrown naughty schoolboy. grin

Gonegirl Sun 10-Nov-19 11:15:34

(Sorry to laugh at 'em all)

trisher Sun 10-Nov-19 11:15:37

I think some are mixing up the Festival of Remembrance (a dodgy performance where Leona Lewis sang badly) with the Service of Remembrance at the Cenotaph (happening now). You see I may be a confirmed pacifist but I do know what is happening and the difference.

rafichagran Sun 10-Nov-19 11:16:17

I am consistent and very strong in my belief, have been for years. Like I said wear your minority white Poppy, I really do not care, I will wear my red one with Pride like the majority.

Gonegirl Sun 10-Nov-19 11:16:45

There are some miserable sods on Gransnet. grin

Gonegirl Sun 10-Nov-19 11:17:19

(not you rachifagran)

merlotgran Sun 10-Nov-19 11:17:42

Are they, trisher?

Where?

lemongrove Sun 10-Nov-19 11:18:43

I don’t think that’s at all likely trisher (mixing up) two quite different events.They, and we, have been around for long enough.

trisher Sun 10-Nov-19 11:20:06

I do think that having to turn up and listen to Leona Lewis murder Bridge over Troubled Water is too much for anyone even a politician.(and possibly the RF)

Anniebach Sun 10-Nov-19 11:20:15

I doubt the parents whose 21 year old son has died thought last night was ‘a dodgy performance’

GracesGranMK3 Sun 10-Nov-19 11:20:33

I have just started a new thread about the Cenotaph. Just thought we needed some balance and that the cowardly, chaotic Tories should not get all their own way.

Pantglas2 Sun 10-Nov-19 11:27:15

I don’t see why the Royal British Legion should be honouring the dead of other countries- the name itself tells us that. We have a royal family, other countries don’t although I’m sure the have their own organisations to commemorate their war deaths.

merlotgran Sun 10-Nov-19 11:27:19

I do agree about Leona Lewis. There are plenty of talented celebrity singers who could do justice to an important occasion without sounding like a strangled cat singing flat.

And while we're on the subject of celebrity singers, I was amazed to see Lee Mead, who has a lovely voice, needing to read the words of Morning Has Broken which is as easy to sing as a nursery rhyme.

He can, after all, manage to sing his way through a West End Musical.

Witzend Sun 10-Nov-19 11:27:22

How anyone can think that the red poppy 'glorifies war' I cannot imagine. To me it's just the reverse.
Neither does the Cenotaph ceremony glorify it in any way, not to me anyway.

As for Corbyn, he was at the Cenotaph laying his wreath - I don't see that the other is compulsory. Whether he'd actually choose to attend the Cenotaph ceremony I wouldn't like to say, but with an election coming up....

jannxxx Sun 10-Nov-19 11:30:23

disgraceful, and he wants to ruin sorry run the country!!

trisher Sun 10-Nov-19 11:32:43

Annie I think perhaps the people now dying in Yemen and in the fighting on the Turkish/Syrian border will not particularly care. It also will not bring their son back or stop other 21 year olds dying. If it brings them comfort then I'm pleased for them but I remain committed to the original concept of the red poppy, now upheld by the white poppy, that the men who died in Flanders Fields are best commemorated by working to prevent war.

Gonegirl Sun 10-Nov-19 11:32:50

So glad I didn't watch it last night.