John McDonnell - fee paying scholar to Marxist

The article you linked to doesn't appear to have been written by somebody whose native language is English. It doesn't suggest McDonnell tried to "hide" anything.

Choose another then growstuff

Google ‘did JMcD’ hide schooling’ there are plenty of articles! The DM, Sun, Express to name 3.

And before anyone gets snobby, I do read the Guardian on line every day and I subscribe to the Telegraph.

Urmstongran, your post makes no logical sense. You admit that a child doesn't choose his own school - but then you object to his adult views on education. I, too, believe that private schools should lose their charitable status. why should they have it?

''I wonder if jura and growstuff will respond later after asking me for ‘evidence’.''

a winterwonderland today here, and been swimming in the hot outdoor pools with the Alps all around- so apologies for the delay in responding. Forced myself to read through this piece of ''evidence'' and honestly, trisher has said it all already- so won't repeat. But thanks.

Personally I will remain with my guess, that he hated that Catholic school, probably had a very difficult experience of it all (the abuse that went on is well documented) and hated the narrow bigotry- and once he had escaped- wanted to put it all firmly behind him and go forth. Can't blame him myself.

Labaik, you presume the 'having a very good education' bit. Don't automatically assume that a private education is superior, just because fees are paid.

Of course, the 'best' are very good but, overall, the private sector doesn't do too well at all. Why? Because parents tend towards sending the children that they don't believe will do well in a state school!

Laughable isn't it? Johnson "lies", and the lefties on here are screaming for his head. McDonnell "lies", and it's because he's "traumatised". It would be funny if it wasn't so bloody hypocritical!

Fipping hell Opal- if you can't see the difference - then ... well, nuff said

Has McDonnell lied? What did he lie about...it’s a long thread I have missed that bit.

Urmstonegran why on earth would you assume I am "het up" because I call a terrible piece of writing "Shit"? I don't like badly written political articles and I don't think they help anyone's argument but I am quite able to criticise without becoming emotional.

Flipping hell jura2, it's not 'me not seeing the difference', it's 'you not seeing the similarities' . As you say, nuff said ,,

So Opal you would equate saying the wrong name for your school (possibly because you would rather forget it) as equivalent to promising 50,000 new nurses for the NHS when it's actually 31,000 and 40 hospitals when there's really only 6?
What's similar about that?
One's personal and affects no-one else, the other is public and affects us all.

trisher it’s not even 6 new hospital...these are refurbishments. And have you considered that Johnson maybe isn’t lying but just thick?

indeed trisher, it is beyond nonsense.

I think Boris is so very thick that he completely underestimates the rest of us - at least that could explain things!

Shall we wind this up now? It’s beginning to disintegrate anyway.

All those in favour?

Aye.

Here are just some of Boris’s lies:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-lies-conservative-leader-candidate-list-times-banana-brexit-bus-a8929076.html%3famp

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/37-lies-gaffes-scandals-make-18558695.amp

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thecanary.co/uk/2019/10/05/just-over-100-days-in-and-boris-johnsons-lied-and-misled-80-times-and-rising/amp/

How do those lists compare to the claim made in the OP (which in itself was factually incorrect - he wasn’t a fee paying scholar)? Asking for a friend.

Aye Urmstongran- it’s getting to the stage where we all need to have a group hug and a weep for the poor man’s miserable childhood......

Or we could have a group hug and weep for the mess that the worst bunch of right wing liars, cheats and thieves we’ve ever seen in Govt are currently creating in the UK...

Yes, let’s stop making mountains out of molehills do that instead.

Don’t mock the poor man SirChenjin, who knows what he went through.

I've only just got home, clicked on Ug's link (which was then the last post on this thread) and I feel much the same as trisher does about it. Incredibly badly written, possibly not even by a British person, and quite confusing. What is more, the 'Herald Publicist' is incredibly coy about disclosing any details about itself. I do like to know a bit more about an online publication than 'zilch'.

Bad choice of link, I think, Ug

What could Boris possibly have got through to have made him into the living cheat that he is today, I wonder. Something went very wrong somewhere.

Lying cheat - although living works too

SirC- I often wonder abotu that. And from the experiences of those I know who were sent away to Public Boarding school from the age of 5 - I can only sumise what they went through. Poor kids. (in the case of those I know, no full sexual abuse- but very close to it, and beating and bullying by senior pupils and some staff- until they were old enough to become the bullies and do the beatings.

Looks like McDonnell was able to walk away and do very well with his life - unlike Boris who seems damaged by it all beyond hope.

How strange! There are no details about "HeraldPublicist" on Google. However, a user with the name "HeraldPublicist" has been active on Twitter over the last few weeks. It looks suspiciously like a fake news site.

You appear to have shot yourself in the foot with that source Urmstongran.

This is a quote from Prospect Magazine in 2018 about McDonnell's early days:

"McDonnell and his brother, who became a police chief superintendent, went to the local grammar. After a year he was sent on a church grant to De La Salle College in Ipswich, a Catholic boarding school, to prepare him for the priesthood. “We were the classic Irish Catholic family, which meant one of us was going to be the priest,” he says with a sigh.
The altar boy who had to get up early every morning for Mass didn’t enjoy the experience and doesn’t talk publicly about it, but others have heard him speak of De La Salle in terms of “sado-masochistic Christianity,” a regime that enjoyed “kicking the shit out of you.” McDonnell sticks to: “I did a few years there until I was 15, 16 and basically discovered girlfriends, so celibacy wasn’t going to be an option. I was also into politics.”

www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/john-mcdonnell-socialist-kevin-maguire-profile

Please note that it is the journalist who refers to the school as "De La Salle", not McDonnell himself.

"Ipswich De La Salle College" is listed in the 1944 edition of "The Catholic Schools of England and Wales", even though it was known as St John's College since its opening in 1937:

archive-uat.catholicherald.co.uk/article/9th-july-1937/14/new-college-at-ipswich-to-be-opened-by-brothers-of

There is still no evidence that McDonnell tried to hide anything, so no grounds for accusing him of hypocrisy.