Prince Andrew’s alibi....

Yes/yes/no you’re definitely not.

He’s as guilty as it’s possible to be (imo).

I would have thought that someone somewhere would be able to verify if he was at a birthday party that particular night.

If you had served Prince Andrew, I don't think it's something you'd fail to remember.

He said that he and 'the Duchess' always made sure that one of them was at home with the children.
That surprised me, considering the amount of international travelling they both did.
Did they not have a nanny?

It was said today a witness has come forward to say she saw Andrew in Tramp that night.

This troubles me, she can remember one night 18 years ago and comes forward today.

It has been said Andrew often went there.

Callistemon, I read that records have shown this to be untrue, there are instances when both were out of the country at the same time. He may well have taken his daughter to a birthday party that evening but children’s parties don’t last long, there would have been plenty of time for him to go out later that night. A doctor has also said that the condition he claims to have had to prevent him sweating doesn’t exist, there is no connection between adrenaline and sweating. His story has more holes than a sieve.

I agree that it would be difficult for a witness to remember a specific night 18 years ago. It also bothers me that Virginia was paid a large sum of money for the photograph by a journalist.

The birthday party was late afternoon in Woking.

He would have had plenty of time to get back to Bagshot where he was living at the time and then go to Tramp in London in the evening.

The birthday party is no alibi at all.

Whatever evidence there'll be will be withheld. PPI. The explanation being that " it's not in the interest of the public ". Information can be held indefinitely.

I watched the Virginia interview last night. So much of what Andrew said could be picked up and checked on. This business about the sweating, who on earth advised him to bring that up if untrue? Is he an appalling dancer BTW? He just seems to have dug himself an enormous hole. Yes, it can all be verified re parties and nightclubs I would think. What a mess!

Did his security personnel have to sign gagging order, I wonder?

How much can be checked about one night 18 years ago ?

Everyone knows when their birthday is and their family who arranged the party will know the date and the details, especially as Prince Andrew attended!

He looks as if he could be an appalling 'dad dancer' but others could verify that.

As for the sweating, must ask our friend who served in the Falklands with him.

Everybody can remember a birthday 18 years ago ?

And as the alleged party would have been for family friends why would they be excited about Andrew taking his daughter ?

I assume his daughter received more than one birthday party invitation that year so I doubt he is telling the truth , he can remember one party his daughter went to 18 years ago !

Annie He explained that he could remember the party because Pizza Express in Woking was not somewhere he ever frequented

If he had shown up at the Pizza Express I am sure someone would have reported it to the local news outlets after. Any indication that happened? - or were the people of Woking subject to a vow of silence.

He can't even lie without being an arrogant snob!

Oh Merlot! I nearly choked on my packet of crisps ?

As Ellen Vanin says, I doubt if we’ll ever know who did what. “Not in the public interest” always seems to prevent information being available that the public ARE interested in!

Haven’t seen any Pizza Express staff come forward to say he visited. Of course, he may have been heavily disguised.

Doubt if anyone at Pizza Express would have recognised him,

If it was a birthday party I assume he bought a pizza for all
unless it was a bring your own pizza party !

He hasn’t the intelligence to come up with a plausible porkie.

Someone has apparently come forward to say they saw him at Tramps with the underage girl.

She wasn’t underage.

How on earth can anyone remember one night in Tramp 18
years ago.

I'm sure he'd remember his nights with a few Tramps Annie.

No evidence can ever undo the image that Prince Andrew has projected: of a smug, conceited fool, who imagines that he can hoodwink the public with this image of himself as superior and beyond reproach. Normal, decent people care about girls being treated like this, dread their daughters and granddaughters being drawn into webs like this from which they cannot escape. He doesn't care, doesn't think, doesn't imagine the repulsion of his client, and us, to behaviour such as his. It would be interesting to know how Epstein made the money to live like this. Perhaps Prince Andrew would have the decency to enlighten us? Perhaps he could direct us to tumbling down the whole sickening edifice of lives like theirs? No? It's the only thing that would convince us that his perspective has changed.