Is this the beginning of the end for the United Kingdom?

So, the apparent advantage of the split would be for Scotland ?
I presume you live in Scotland SirChenjin, so I can understand your point of view.
What is a little confusing is that you would want Independence but still want to be tied to the EU.
What I'm trying to understand is what loss would there be to the rest of the UK.
Perhaps the OP can explain.

if scotland goes independent does that mean that any funds from England to Scotland will stop?

I'm not sure it would (did I say it would?) I just find it interesting that the Conservative and Unionist Party (which is still their title) may over see the break up of that Union.

A united Ireland and Scotland an independent participator in Europe would be good for England in the long run.

But would Europe want England to be a member again?

I think so craftyone, in fact I'm almost sure!
Things change trisher, what once worked perhaps now doesn't and the two sides would be better to separate and go their own way. Scotland the same. As long as that is what the people of NI and Scotland want, I see no problem.

So you're not saying that it would be a really bad thing for The UK then trisher.
As far as I can see The Conservative and Unionist Party would not be instrumental in Scotland leaving, so they may have to over see the breakup but it would be Scotlands choice to leave the UK, if they want to.

Alexa, who says we'll want to be members again?[ confused] If today is anything to go by, I would think it's unlikely in the near future!

I think what I'm actually trying to say is that if the majority of Scottish people want Independence, then I think that they should be allowed to have it.
Why not?

Will the EU accept an independent Scotland as a member overnight?! Might be better to have a deal in place before leaving the UK!

Perhaps we should just go for for a hard Scexit - apparently it’s a wonderful idea

Go for what you like SC, it won't be anything to do with Westminster once Scotland is independent!

There’s certainly a lot to consider

I'm not saying that I would like Scotland to leave SirChenjin, you are our friends and we have a lot of love for Scotland and Scottish people.
We have been through a lot together and stood shoulder to shoulder. I would be sad if Scotland left us and I hope that they don't but I wouldn't want Scotland to stay if it didn't want to do. ?

I think it's certainly on the cards. I certainly hope so.

For those who support Scottish independence, think on this.
Uk defence spends £1.64bn per year supporting 10,000 private sector jobs.
These defence projects can not be awarded to a foreign power, which Scotland will be if they vote to leave the uk.

Trisher -I don't think so. I don't mind Scotland having independence provided English Tax payers don't get the bill.

MerylStreep Maybe those jobs could be transferred to the North of England which could certainly do with them?

If Scotland wants independence, why not let them have it?
Just as long as the North of England can also have a referendum. We’re a foreign country as far as London is concerned and vice versa.

GrannyGravy
They would be transferred to the North & the Belfast ship yards.

I think this may well be the beginning of the end of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, ironically brought about by the so-called Conservative and Unionist party who have put a border in the Irish Sea, so NI is quite likely to vote for Irish Unification,. After all the majority in NI want to Remain in the EU.

As a Scot living in England it would break my heart to have to produce a passport at Carlisle and be treated like a foreigner in my own country. I firmly believe we are better together, in the UK and in the EU but I fear the forces of division and separatism my prevail.

Jabberwok, I think you need to go a little bit further back than 1921 ?

I think that Scotland should have independence if that's what the majority want. However it must be fully independent, which includes fiscal responsibility. Can they afford it, will the EU want an independent Scotland who may not be a net contributor? What about their currency? If they want to row their own boat then why not? But like all things there will be a cost.

As with Brexit and all the uncertainty and unknowns that comes with that Daisy (which don't seem to faze the Tory voters) there’s obviously a lot of discussions and negotiations ahead.

I don’t pretend to understand the ins and outs of Scottish Independence, but listening to different opinions of the people before the election, as news teams travelled round the country, it seemed as in our own Brexit referendum, still hugely divided views. Some desperately wanting to break away, some equally desperate not to.
More division, more anger, more heartache.

Exactly that Calendar - plus years of uncertainty, and for what?