Will the remainers admit defeat?

You all need to move on, frankly.

HOW long are you going to argue about winning something you wanted? It is a bit sad, to be honest.

If Remainers can move on and accept it, you DEFINITELY need to.

GRACESGRANMK3
Actually, I do believe in what I wrote. I don’t believe what you wrote.

Yes, challenge, but not with bile. Let’s move on.

The only bile was yours CoolioC.

Although I have a strong feeling you don't even know you are doing it.

Oh CoolioC you say 'I doubt we would be having this argument if Labour or Lib Dem's had won the election' - I for one certainly think we would!!!!

You only have to look at the years and years that people like Farage have challenged the original decisions. Of course, there would have been some that would.

Add to that the sentence "I doubt we would be having this argument if Labour or Lib Dem's had won the election' - I for one certainly think we would!!!!" Whose having an "argument". I resent the nasty slurs, childish name-calling and deliberate flaming that's going on but that isn't coming from the Labour or LD voters; it's coming from those who don't know how to win gracefully.

I imagine there will always be some twozzocks who cannot accept they have lost. We now have a "not my prime minister" gang.

GracesGranMK3 Mon 16-Dec-19 14:47:46
Whose having an "argument". I resent the nasty slurs, childish name-calling and deliberate flaming that's going on but that isn't coming from the Labour or LD voters; it's coming from those who don't know how to win gracefully.

Exactly. I just DON'T get why they want to hash and rehash. Surely they should be out celebrating their win. AND looking forward to a new, blue life?!

Ngaio1 Mon 16-Dec-19 14:55:44
I imagine there will always be some twozzocks who cannot accept they have lost. We now have a "not my prime minister" gang.

Not many. Most of us understand what's done is done and just accept it. Unlike the 'winners' who don't appear to be happy with the win. God knows why! Possibly they just enjoy the whole combative process. Although I voted Labour and I was sad we lost, I've LONG since moved on. It's over. Done and dusted. Find something else to do!

Just looking through these boards it is not the leavers who are unhappy. There are still plenty of sore remainers still posting about how unfair it all is and how more people didn't vote Conservative than did and so on. Hence the title of this thread. I questioned whether they would admit defeat regarding leave or remain and accept the result. Most people will of course, but clearly some still won't.

GGMK3 I resent the nasty slurs, childish name-calling and deliberate flaming that's going on but that isn't coming from the Labour or LD voters

Wow, have you got a short f***g memory ...... you were one of the worst on here for name-calling if someone stated a right wing view.

After Jan 31st, we will have left the EU so then perhaps the Remainers' will just give up. It is more important now to focus on the future deal with both EU and other countries around the world too. Boris wants to heal the country, so we can come back together.

Good gracious GGMK3 that is really not very nice.

Perhaps I should have written discussion instead of argument, always willing to admit if I made a mistake. I have mild Aspergers (discovered at 55 years) so sometimes do not realise I muddle words. Am always happy to be pulled up though!

Newnanny
It would be very nice to think the country will heal but unfortunately, I do think this will take a long, long time. Perhaps when 31/1 is over and times start to move then the country may well start. The anticipation of the last three years has really been more than either leave or remain could stand, its been truly awful.

GracesGranMK3 - I think you will see from any of my previous posts that I have never posted a rude or aggressive post, wouldn't dream of it, and I have never argued with anybody. I am also a Socialist, not a Tory. I merely think that if Labour or Lib Dems had won, some would have been very unhappy and would most certainly have said so.

Agreed the last three years have been a nightmare and not what leavers expected at all. We should all actually be grateful we now have a strong government because the alternative would be more of the same and endless arguments. Brexit would have simply dragged on and on without being resolved. I think most people realised that and voted accordingly. I maintained this is what would happen in several pre-election threads but some remainers still wanted to keep the pot boiling for goodness knows how long.

Opal ... you were one of the worst on here for name-calling if someone stated a right-wing view.

I missed out the swearing you seem to need to resort to. Put a nasty thread on here, deliberately goad people and I have no intention of being polite and gently taking the graceless rubish. If GNHQ does not want to ensure people don't inflame an already unhappy situation then I will say exactly what I think. Stop the attack threads. That's all I ask. It's quite possible to discuss without starting out looking for a fight.

Curlywhirly I takes me ages to type a post and should have made it clearer who I was replying to, in fact, I think we agree. I was replying to the same person you were replying to

I maintained this is what would happen in several pre-election threads

I would have simply accepted your post if you had stopped there, but no, we have to have the sideswipe

but some remainers still wanted to keep the pot boiling for goodness knows how long.

To put it delicately you are not telling it how it is. No one who voted leave came on here and started a nasty, goady thread talking about people who were not even posting. You can try all you like but the sh*t stirring has not come from 2016 leave voters. The 'keeping the argument going" has not come from 2016 leave voters and it is simply more of the right-wing attempt to paint lies as the truth to say it has.

I don't even think there is a thread on here where leave voters are discussing leave or remain. Only people like yourself are doing that.

GGMK I am lost to whom you are referring to in your last post? The para “to put it delicately”.

This was bound to happen either way. I am very sad about it all though.

I have just opened a plastic thingy of roses to eat, wish they still used tins instead of plastic but Cadbury’s are owned now by Americans. Slightly off post.

Nothing is ever "bound to happen" it just seems like it afterwards.

Some of us have always hoped that the will of the majority of voters in the UK, who have demonstrated, not just in hundreds of polls, but also in last week's election, that they want to remain in the EU, would prevail, but sadly our democracy was perverted in 2016 and is still rotten to the core.

Jo Swinson obviously thought she’d immediately attract over 16 million votes too. She thought it was a given.

She forgot to factor in that the public might feel slightly uncomfortable with her ‘Revoke’ stance sweeping a democratic vote off the table.

Nevertheless, most voters voted for parties which wanted to revoke Article 50 or at least have a second referendum.

Only a minority voted for the brexitories but thanks to our corrupt undemocratic voting system, that minority won.

From Facebook:

Canada here. For anyone believing that a renegotiated EU trade agreement under Brexit and a new trade deal with the USA and other countries will be nice, easy and fast, guess again.
1. The US Mexico Canada trade deal known as NAFTA was negotiated in 5+yrs in the 80's. As soon as the Trump Republicans assumed power, he slapped tariffs on half the world and told Canada and Mexico he was canceling NAFTA and it would have to be renegotiated. That the North American manufacturing and resources industries were totally integrated meant nothing. Fast forward 3yrs and the negotiations are still ongoing, large business has no idea where they stand and really can't plan for anything. Small business is in even worse shape with planning. How do you make business plans when the rules you are planning for may change at any time. Plus, even if a deal is ratified, the USA can just pull out to renegotiate again. They don't play fair in trade deals. They never have.
2. Then there is the perception driven by Tory BS that an EU / UK (if there still is a UK) trade renegotiation under Brexit would be easy and quick. Guess again. The EU know you're coming, so why would they be nice when they know they can dither, delay and shuffle their feet to get a better deal for themselves?
3. It took 7yrs for Canada and the EU to ratify the trade agreement known as CETA. At one point in the 11th hour it almost didn't happen because it was voted down by a bunch of influencial dairy farmers in a small autonomous region of Belgium who wouldn't let that region sign the deal.
4. The attached link will tell you that a perceived friend, Canada, is going to take a wait and see stance on any trade deal with the UK. Why? Officially, too many unknowns on the present UK. Unofficially? Dither, delay and shuffle our feet to get a better deal. Expect to see that with a lot of other countries.
www.cbc.ca/news/politics/brexit-canada-saturday-1.5396420

GracesGranMK3, thanks for the explanation, I was a little confused!