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What now for Labour Party ?

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Anniebach Sat 14-Dec-19 10:26:15

Corbyn isn’t going to stand down for some time because he
‘Needs to reflect’. !

MP’s want him to leave now .

Who for the new leader ?

Anniebach Thu 19-Dec-19 17:42:28

Now I am concerned the NEC will change the rules.

Nandalot Thu 19-Dec-19 18:31:13

Grandad, thank you for the link. Am I misreading it but this seems to suggest a much shorter qualification date than six months before the election.

Quote:
In 2018 the rulebook was changed to remove this requirement. It now reads: "The freeze date for eligibility to vote shall be not less than two weeks after the approved timetable is announced and not less than three weeks before the deadline for receipt of ballot papers, with no qualifying period of membership prior to the freeze date."

This means that new members who join now, or up to two weeks after a contest has been timetabled, can vote in it. There is therefore a huge incentive on candidates to recruit new members into the party to vote for them, not just to appeal to existing members.

Iam64 Thu 19-Dec-19 18:33:32

Thanks Nadalot, for that summary. I heard from another friend this afternoon, who has also joined in the hope of influencing a vote for a leader who is not going to continue the alienation of the LP here in what is now called its "northern heartlands".

Anniebach Thu 19-Dec-19 18:38:35

Thank you Nandalot i hadn’t thought about the timing, was a member for years so didn’t give it a thought.

POGS Thu 19-Dec-19 20:10:35

" 2018 the rulebook was changed to remove this requirement. It now reads: "The freeze date for eligibility to vote shall be not less than two weeks after the approved timetable is announced and not less than three weeks before the deadline for receipt of ballot papers, with no qualifying period of membership prior to the freeze date."

This means that new members who join now, or up to two weeks after a contest has been timetabled, can vote in it. There is therefore a huge incentive on candidates to recruit new members into the party to vote for them, not just to appeal to existing members."
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I appreciated the above but from what I am reading between the lines, to be fair that is purely by watching commentators and MP's on TV, there is the thought the NEC will try to alter the voting time frame again to thwart any attempt for new Labour Members who are more centric from having a vote. To, pardon the pun, the NEC wants to keep the momentum with the far left in it's image.

The NEC sits on January 6th so I guess it will all become clear but they know they pulled off a massive influx of members who were far left /Momentum and could well be worried the same could happen in the opposite direction. It won't because the Unions hold so much clout but a run for the money may be a cause for concern. .

POGS Thu 19-Dec-19 20:14:11

Simply put ' Stacking the odds'

Iam64 Thu 19-Dec-19 20:42:16

POGS - I do hope your'e wrong about this. If the NEC attempts to stop the 20,000 plus (so far) who have joined since the disastrous election results from taking part in the leadership elections, surely that just confirms the party is in the hands of a cult.

Anniebach Thu 19-Dec-19 21:26:59

The party is in the hands of a cult

GracesGranMK3 Thu 19-Dec-19 21:29:20

Isn't that a personal insult against all who happen not to agree with you, Annie? Should I be reporting your post and gathering a gang to turn it into something it isn't?

GagaJo Thu 19-Dec-19 21:51:02

Oh don't be ridiculous Anniebach. If it was a cult, we'd be prostrating ourselves, begging Jeremy not to go. Not discussing a new leader and discussing options.

I'd be more worried about the country being run by an unelected man, if I were you.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 19-Dec-19 21:54:04

Unelected man? No idea who you mean tchgrintchgrintchgrin

Iam64 Thu 19-Dec-19 21:54:10

What do you mean GagaJo, an unelected man?

Anniebach Thu 19-Dec-19 22:18:12

An unelected man ? What’s happened to Johnson ?

GagaJo Thu 19-Dec-19 22:26:15

He's the puppet, not the puppet master.

Cummings has his hand RIGHT up Boris' back.

Chewbacca Thu 19-Dec-19 22:30:58

Ahhh! I get what you mean GagaJo. Like John McDonnell being Corbyn's puppet master? Yep, I get it!

Anniebach Thu 19-Dec-19 22:40:12

Yes Chewie, his hand will have to move to Long Bailey’s back.

GagaJo Thu 19-Dec-19 22:41:44

Oh, you mean an ELECTED man, as opposed to a shadowy, paid employer NEVER put to the rigour of the electoral process?

Apples and coal dear. Not at all the same fruit.

GagaJo Thu 19-Dec-19 22:42:17

*Employee. Typo

Urmstongran Thu 19-Dec-19 22:49:57

Clive Lewis has officially thrown his hat into the leadership ring.

Labaik Thu 19-Dec-19 22:50:18

At least McDonnell was elected by some people and was a member of the Labour party. Cummings wasn't elected by anyone anywhere and isn't even a Conservative; he's a power hungry psychopath [imo].

GagaJo Thu 19-Dec-19 22:54:42

Labaik, I agree.

Chewbacca Thu 19-Dec-19 23:05:46

he's a power hungry psychopath

How funny, I think the very same thing about McDonnell.

GagaJo Thu 19-Dec-19 23:09:16

ELECTED Chewbacca. Key word there.

GagaJo Thu 19-Dec-19 23:10:19

Ironic really. You are all SO proud of Boris being elected. Yet have NO problem with the real man in charge having taken no part in the electoral process.

Labaik Thu 19-Dec-19 23:13:10

Has anyone seen those videos of him from 5 years ago talking about what he would do when he was in power? And what do people make of all that time he spent in Russia?