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What now for Labour Party ?

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Anniebach Sat 14-Dec-19 10:26:15

Corbyn isn’t going to stand down for some time because he
‘Needs to reflect’. !

MP’s want him to leave now .

Who for the new leader ?

Grany Sat 14-Dec-19 16:04:35

Matching pair

GagaJo Sat 14-Dec-19 16:04:38

Jane43, if you do even a cursory search, you'll find that was a photoshop job.

trisher Sat 14-Dec-19 16:06:57

LullyDully Not Ed Balls , he was dreadful in Education. Sweet in Strictly but that is a different field altogether.
Sadly such is the state of thing that I think being on Strictly is more of a qualification than anything else. After all without HIGNFY Boris would be sees as the corrupt lying self seeker he really is. It's the media image that matters everything else is just boring!

GagaJo Sat 14-Dec-19 16:07:34

Maddyone, if you check Facebook, Diane Abbott has a full and thriving fan club. I've been on it a while and it had thousands of members, not one of whom mocks or makes fun.

She's been a full and productive MP. You only have to Google her to see her active parliamentary history.

IF you believe the same right-wing propaganda that saw Labour off this time round about Diane Abbott, fair enough. But I wouldn't expect that from a Labour supporter!

Scribbles Sat 14-Dec-19 16:08:27

@M0nica gringrin

Yvette Cooper might be seen as a safe pair of hands: mature but not "too old"; has ministerial experience; female; previously stood against Corbyn for the leadership in 2015 and came third (the runner up then, Andy Burnham, has left parliament and so would not be a contender now).

If a younger candidate is preferred, Wes Streeting may be one to watch - almost rabid in his anti-Corbyn views. He obviously has something going for him as far as his constituents are concerned because he's just been re-elected in Ilford North, an area with one of the highest Jewish populations in the country.

Anniebach Sat 14-Dec-19 16:28:42

We can forget Lisa Nandy, she was on the first front bench when Corbyn became leader and was one of the many who resigned their post.

MP’s wanted her to stand against Corbyn in the second leadership contest , she refused but was on Owen Smiths support team .

The far left coven wouldn’t allow her through.

love0c Sat 14-Dec-19 16:30:48

Nico97 You and me both. 'Sleeping with the enemy takes on a whole new meaning!!!!! I need to go and vomit now.

jo1book Sat 14-Dec-19 17:42:41

Wes Streeting is fantastic; I would almost vote for him and very impressed with his media style; apparently told JC to his face he would lose the Election for Labour. but poor old Jc is one of those people who think stubbornness is strength and puts hope before experience.

M0nica Sat 14-Dec-19 18:11:00

grany are you sure it wasn't the Russians?

Urmstongran Sat 14-Dec-19 18:46:16

One Black Country voter described Corbyn recently as a “snotty Islington weirdo who hates Britain like vegans hate Sunday roasts”
?

Oopsminty Sat 14-Dec-19 18:55:22

They need a total overhaul. And Momentum need to rein it in.

As an aside, I was quite shocked to discover that, apart from the Tony Blair wins, Labour hasn't won an election for over 50 years.

varian Sat 14-Dec-19 18:58:36

The vegans in our family love Sunday roasts. There are many delicious vegan alternatives to eating dead animals.

Fennel Sat 14-Dec-19 19:12:55

Like Dooddlebug and Grandad, earlier today, I think the LP must re-think their priorites as a an effective modern oppositon to the Tories. Who have been pursuing their current landowning financial superiority since the days of Dickens, if not before.
And only then choose a leader.
But not a weak compromise as with Blair in 1997.

Anniebach Sat 14-Dec-19 19:24:27

Blair is the only labour leader to win three consecutive general elections, he got something right.

MawB Sat 14-Dec-19 19:31:32

Add comment | Report | Private message varian Sat 14-Dec-19 18:58:36
The vegans in our family love Sunday roasts. There are many delicious vegan alternatives to eating dead animals
Surely if they talk about “throwing him to the wolves ” nobody is taking about eating Corbyn?

Fennel Sat 14-Dec-19 19:34:47

True, Annie.
But there must be more to an effective opposition than that.

maddyone Sat 14-Dec-19 19:39:17

Sorry kitty, I must have missed that, I also mentioned her up thread. She would be good wouldn’t she?

Anniebach Sat 14-Dec-19 20:03:16

Fennel Blair and Brown, not forgetting John Smith brought the Labour Party out of the 14 year wilderness, not forgetting the work Kinnock did , he had to take on the militants and fight back from the disaster of the 70’s and the 1983 election.

The party has to move forward not try to bring back the past.

It is 22 years since Blair won the first election. Surely we can learn from the past but not try to return to the past.

maddyone Sat 14-Dec-19 20:05:34

Gaga, I base my opinion of Diane Abbott on a variety of interviews/political programmes that I have watched. Do not assume I got my view of her from right wing newspapers. I find that where she was an articulate speaker in her younger days, she no longer is so, in my opinion. Just my opinion Gaga, you’re entitled to yours.

maddyone Sat 14-Dec-19 20:14:55

Incidentally Gaga, you’ll notice that I did not mention the apparently mismatched shoes, and I have no idea whether the photo was photo shopped or not. Nor do I particularly care, I’ve known a number of people who have mistakenly put on mismatched shoes and gone out in them, including my dearly loved, departed father. He went out in one black and one brown shoe, bless him.

Fennel Sat 14-Dec-19 20:22:04

Annie - I think you're right, but I'm older than you and tired of fighting.
Why can't the youngsters take over?

inkcog Sat 14-Dec-19 20:26:48

That's just mean and spiteful.

I believe Edwina enjoyed herself?

Anniebach Sat 14-Dec-19 20:30:37

Fennel the Labour Party needs young leaders who will look forward not leaders who look back.

growstuff Sat 14-Dec-19 20:37:08

Find Seb Dance a safe Labour seat when he comes back from the EU.

growstuff Sat 14-Dec-19 20:38:29

I think the Labour Party has plenty of talent on its back benches, but the current system of choosing a leader needs to be overcome.