The State Opening of Parliament (again)

I think Tony Blair is great and did wonders for the LP.

He massively increased PFIs into the NHS leading to much more privatisation after Thatcher started the privatisation NHS and Major introduced PFIs

Then he took us to war with Iraq on dodgy dossier even though there was no WMD

I've got no time for him.

And all in with Murdock.

jolbook ''The Queen will like Boris. They are from the same class and will mix in same social circles.''

well, I think not. Same class in some ways, but he has no class and is a disgrace to his 'class' and HRH too.

I rather felt theQueen gave her speech through gritted teeth!

Boris and The Queen mix in the same social circles ? Never , ever.

Corbyn is history and should have gone last Friday with graciousness and dignity He must be a machosist to continue. BTW there are notable absences from posting these days. Wheres WW3?

I think WW3 posts under a new name.

But graciousness and dignity are two attributes Corbyn doesn’t possess.

The only connection I can see between the Queen and Boris Johnson is that he went to Eton and do did her grandsons, William and Harry. Otherwise, miles apart.

I can’t stand either Johnson or Corbyn, so what do I do? I quite enjoy the pageantry, though. It’s good theatre.

WHY do people change their names? I don’t understand, especially as they would come back with exactly the same views.

calendargirl ''I think WW3 posts under a new name.'' - evidence, please?

jennifereccles- some people on GN have changed names again, and again and some more btw- despite GN rules saying that it is not allowed (I was granjura in the past, and not juragran- so didn't 'fool' anyone- I do think that there is a question of trust involved.

Apparently Boris is distantly related to the Queen through his paternal grandmother who was related to a German Prince

Doubt he will be invited to join the family at Sandringham

There are lots of people with blue blood in the UK. Throughout the ages the fecundity of royals has made sure of it. But I guess most offsprings were kept under wraps.

Henry VIII, of course, only produced a handful of children despite being married six times. Probably something wrong with his six wives!

Boris has a very interesting genealogy. Check it out on Wikipedia under 'ancestors and siblings'. He is related to the Queen (5th cousin twice removed) and possibly descended from George II. I would like to see that episode of 'Who Do You Think You Are?' again.

Yes Chestnut, a Prince of Wuttemburg is in there somewhere along with George 11!!! Another look at Who do you think are would be interesting!
I think he goes to Exmoor for Xmas Annie, but maybe not this year as Carrie might be a stumbling block!!
Henry V111 only had three legitimate living children, none of whom had issue. He did have at least two illegitimate children but only acknowledged one who also died without issue , so any relationship to him could be almost impossible to trace!

Probably something wrong with his six wives!

Oh, very likely the women's fault.
You don't think Henry maybe had a little problem?

I read sometime ago it was suspected he had a genetic disorder which resulted in a high mortality rate of unborn babies usually as a result of deformity.

Yes, Dragonfly46, I also felt it was very much 'forced marches' with the Queen. Rather hoped she would end by saying "can I b****r off now'?

She looked tired to me.

Speaking of pomp and pageantry, I found the sword, the crown (with a roller all to itself, fhs!) and the hat on a stick (yes, I know it has some grand title or other) rather other worldly.

Like a strange tribe that worships various icons, which must be processed on state occasions. Most archaic.

Could well have been ! Queen Anne the same. Poor woman had 17(!!) pregnancies and only one living child who died aged 11 (enter George 1st!!) Henry and Katherine did have a living son who died at six weeks. Had he lived history would have been totally different.

jura2

I have no evidence WW2 has changed her name whatsoever. Just felt haven’t seen her posting since the election, she was always very vocal in her views so surprised not to see her opinions on things now. Also a few new names, also with forthright comments, so thought it may be her.
Of course, I may be adding two and two and making five! I’m no Miss Marple!

Might have got name wrong WW2 or WW3, sorry.

@Dr_JCarter

People are actually surprised that the Conservatives have already begun back peddling on their manifesto commitments.

You mustn’t have been paying attention the last 10 Years.

This is what they do. Lie.

#Parliament #QueenSpeech