Prince Phillip

@3nanny6 - I love the idea that his wife will send him a telegram

I think these days she sends a card, not a telegram. I think Prince Philip is a bit of a buffoon myself. It would be nice if we could all access the same standard of care that he gets.
But we dont honestly believe that he would be lying in an overcrowded ward with a lot of plebs do we?

I’m with you tanith...aliens the word

Queen mum over 100 when she died ....Prince Philip 98...... the queen 92/3?.... who says money doesn’t buy you health !

George V - 70 when he died
George VI- 58
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The queens sister 72. The queens father 57

Saggi
I’m sure money certainly pays for the best surgeons, treatments, hospital care etc. but it does NOT pay for good health.
If it did, famous and wealthy people such as Steve Jobs, George Harrison, David Bowie, Cilla Black’s husband, Patrick Swayze to name a few would still be here, I think.

Money absolutely does buy you health - it’s a well known fact. You only need to look at life expectancies amongst the rich compared the poorest in society to know that. Of course there are individual anomalies and outliers but statistically speaking you’re more likely to live to for more than a decade longer if you are well off.

Prince Philip clearly does not like 'fuss'. My own son-in-law will not allow my daughter or his son to visit him when he is in hospital (he has a heart condition).

Not everyone wants visitors when they are not looking their best.

Money didn’t prevent Zara Phillips from having a miscarriage.

Naming three people who have lived a long life ?

My mother in law 92, my sisters mother in law, still active 95,
another sisters mother in law , still active 93.

Money can't buy you good genes but it certainly can help access treatment quickly.

On a very basic level, children who have had good nutrition ( which costs) are set up for a healthier life longterm.

The haters don’t want to read about them Anniebach because it doesn’t fit their thinking that having money makes everything ok. Even if they had it, they’d find something else to feed their hatred!

Yes Pantglas. I am so grateful we have the NHS but I would have turned to prostitution to make money to save my darling daughter, if I had been 50 years younger ! .

Haters?! What on Earth are you on about Pantglas

Who are the " haters?"

I personally think that people who can afford to pay for private healthcare should do so, helping save the NHS money in the process. The Royals fall into this bracket. Oh, and before anyone chimes in, I obviously do not mean emergency care - private hospitals do not have this capability. I so dislike the politics of envy that I see sometimes here on Gransnet. I would not have the Queen's job, no matter how much you pay me. This lady has sacrificed most of her life to the country and the monarchy - and she is still performing some official engagements even now. Prince Phillip is a few years older, no doubt with a number of ongoing medical conditions, and a well-known hater of "fussing". Beyond that, this is none of anyone else's business!

Sorry SirChenjin is it not clear?

The haters, IMO of course, are the people who think that having pots of money makes life a bed of roses.... those people. They probably know who they are. They probably wouldn’t acknowledge that they’re full of hate of course. But they are, and the rest of us know it.

Money absolutely does buy you health - it’s a well known fact.

On average.

But could it also be that healthier people are, on average, more successful in life, and therefore, on average, richer? This is not to blame less healthy people in any way. Good health genes do exist, I suppose, and are inheritable.

Anniebach I paid contributions for health care all my working life and quite a lot of tax.
My tax helps to fund the royals first class health care. And after paying for them to have better treatment than me I am forced to pay for Benenden as it's the most I can afford, to supplement the inadequate NHS treatment. And yes, I know its good when we eventually get it!!
And please don't tell me the RF have their own money which their predecessors worked hard for ..because they didn't.
And I do hope Philip is ok. I don't like to see anyone suffering. But the fact is their lack of stress in life and top health care not to mention top quality food (F&M no less!) helps ensure they have a much better than average chance of living a long and happy life. Surely no one can actually deny that.
I don't mind anyone having private health care if they pay for it with money they have earned honestly. But we shouldn't have to .. and those who can't are suffering.
If we buy something in a shop and it's not fit for purpose we can demand a refund. Well, most of us aren't getting the service we paid for.
I bet the RF are still getting the best. Why are they more important than the taxpayer??

I am not a hater, I turn my tap on and water comes out, I turn the fire on and heat comes out. That makes me a very very lucky person.

I don't really mind the RF one way or the other. I do think money buys you good medical care quickly if needs be.

annepl how can you say they have a life with lack of stress,
and there is no need to shop at F&M for good quality food.

They royal family are not more important than us, the many
who pay for private health care are not more important than us. We are not more important than those who beg on the streets .

Pantglas haters lol. How ridiculous. I certainly do not hate anyone in the RF. But I hate the monarchy as an institution and that's my choice to make.
Nor am I stupid enough to think having money makes everything ok. I didn't see anyone saying that. You have no right to say people are feeding their hatred just because their view differs from yours.l

There are no haters (what a silly expression that is) on here Pantglas, there are merely people who disagree with you and who feel as annepl does.

There’s lots of research and evidence which shows that life expectancy and health is linked to deprivation (or its absence) - I’m surprised this has come as a surprise to anyone.

Of course you can hate whichever institution you like annep1 whatever makes you happy.

However I hope you don’t think that replacing the monarchy with a president would change anything- that person and their family would still have more money than you, better health care than you and better food than you et cetera.

As you too have more money than lots, have better health care and food than so many on this planet. There is no such thing as equality under a monarchy or republic.

If the old boy had to join a queue for hospital admission as we do the queen might have made a very different speech this week. As my old gran would have said — She’s never had to donkey stone a door step.