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Big Ben Can Bong For Brexit

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Calendargirl Sun 22-Dec-19 07:29:55

I see in my Sunday paper that the new Speaker, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, has said he would allow Big Ben to ring out to mark Brexit on January 31st, ‘If MP’s wish to do that’.
How refreshing that this Speaker seems keen to do his job impartially, so unlike the bombastic Bercow, who did everything in his power to force his own views about Brexit at every turn.

craftyone Thu 16-Jan-20 20:48:03

donated via gofundme, got there via brexit central and Mark Francois. I hope there is excess, help for heroes is a wonderful charity. Thanks for reminding me Merylstreep grin

suziewoozie Thu 16-Jan-20 20:50:13

If Help for Heroes is such a wonderful charity, you could donate direct to them

Oopsminty Thu 16-Jan-20 20:52:01

In the meantime, Trump threatens to put 25% tarif on any car produced and exported from the UK

Only half the story, jura

It was a threat to all cars coming from the EU.

Nothing to do with Brexit.

All to do with Iran

jura2 Thu 16-Jan-20 21:20:51

Of course it is NOW to do with Brexit, as he can now dictate to us as we are desperate for Trade Deal.

growstuff Thu 16-Jan-20 22:22:19

What does Help for Heroes have to do with Brexit? [Hmm]

Oopsminty Thu 16-Jan-20 22:28:57

Ask Jura2

Oopsminty Thu 16-Jan-20 22:32:13

Jura2.

The threat has passed almost before it was issued

""The secret threat last week, first reported by The Washington Post, which cited unnamed European officials, would have seen the tariff imposed on all European automobile imports to the US unless Britain, France and Germany agreed to the ultimatum.""

Britain, France and Germany have agreed and the threat has gone.

So no

Nothing to do with Brexit

And it has nothing to do with Help for Heroes

Nor does it have anything to do with Big Ben Bonging

jura2 Fri 17-Jan-20 10:35:38

I am afraid I disagree. The threat to put 25% tarifs on British cars (well, car manufactured in UK... I believe there are no 'British' cars left) - is not due to Brexit - however, Brexit puts us in a very vulnerble situation, where we NEED a Trade Deal with the USA - and in such a position- we are under much more pressure to have to bend to Trump's demands.

As for Help for Heroes, I have never commented on the subject at all.

jura2 Fri 17-Jan-20 10:50:03

vulnerable, ooops.

growstuff Fri 17-Jan-20 13:49:55

Jura didn't even mention Help for Heroes. Why should I ask her?

railman Fri 17-Jan-20 18:42:28

I'm happy that leavers want to celebrate on the 31st January - fell free to haver as many bongs as you like, and as many celebratory drinks as you wish.

But ...

As we live in a democracy, it will not quell my campaign for the UK to rejoin the EU at the earliest opportunity. I have over 60% of people under the age of 50 behind me, and I am happy to continue to debate the case for membership of the EU for many years to come.

I, and I suspect around 50% of the UK population - who knows, perhaps more - will rally to the cause.

We have the example of one Nigel Farage to follow, who has tirelessly worked to achieve this leaving of the EU for a number of years.

It is a good example, but we will continue to debate and argue the case for membership - democratically of course.

railman Fri 17-Jan-20 18:45:01

vegansrock

Love that image you describe - I could even be persuaded to pay to watch that on Netflix, or maybe Britbox!!

railman Fri 17-Jan-20 18:49:04

Isn't "bung" just another word for a bribe?

Is that how Big Ben's bongs will be funded?

Calendargirl Sat 18-Jan-20 11:07:30

Seems there is going to be a lights display to countdown to our exit.

railman Sat 18-Jan-20 11:16:21

Well done to the Brexit "winners". Sajid Javid has stated that there will be no alignment with EU regulations - what a great boost to manufacturing and the SMEs who supply EU corporations wink

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/18/savid-javid-warns-there-will-be-no-alignment-on-eu-regulations-after-brexit

suziewoozie Sat 18-Jan-20 11:59:06

Bye bye FDA with EU if that remains the Government’s position. However nothing remains the Governments position for very long does it? Seems like only a few days ago for example that Johnson had a plan to get Big Ben bonging for Brexit - oh wait....

suziewoozie Sat 18-Jan-20 12:00:25

FTA not FDA ( that’s for when we start buying all our drugs from USA)

Deedaa Sat 18-Jan-20 15:46:52

railman Sajid Javid says British businesses should be ready because they've had 3 years to prepare while admitting that they still don't know what they are preparing for. Bodes well!

vegansrock Sat 18-Jan-20 15:52:27

Brexiters should lean out of their windows and bash themselves over the head with a frying pan. That should create some noice.

Opal Sat 18-Jan-20 17:24:12

No thanks, we'll be too busy popping open the champagne. You'll be able to hear those corks flying across the UK smile.

jura2 Sun 19-Jan-20 10:12:58

French champagne or Italian Prosecco?

Urmstongran Sun 19-Jan-20 10:53:48

Or these?

Sparkling wines sales in Britain are on the up, with UK producers proving that they can compete with the best in the world when it comes to a great glass of bubbly.

International prizes are being awarded and winners at sporting events such as the Grand National and the Boat Race are now officially toasting their success with a glass of English sparkling wine rather than champagne!

railman Mon 20-Jan-20 11:33:17

Just a thought, but if Javid really does ditch the EU regulations, I guess that all Eurostar and Euroshuttle train drivers will now be looking for new jobs.

These positions are covered by EU regulations too.

The UK Government made these changes last year:

www.gov.uk/guidance/rail-transport-safety-and-technical-standards-if-theres-no-brexit-deal#train-driving-licences

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2019/9780111180761

Then Sajid Javid made his statement - so does this all have to be changed again?

More uncertainty - maybe an extra bong or two will make it OK.

railman Mon 20-Jan-20 11:35:34

Maybe not looking for new jobs - but all will need new licences - and the position of drivers in Northern Ireland will be a little more complex perhaps.

That's because the UK now has two EU land borders - one under The Channel, and the other between Ireland and Northern Ireland.

It'll be fascinating to see how Sajid Javid's plan works in practice.

trisher Mon 20-Jan-20 11:40:13

Well as he said he's had 3 years to plan so it will all be sorted by 1s Feb won't it???? won't it??? confused