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Jeremy Corbyn chanting at NY fireworks

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GagaJo Wed 01-Jan-20 16:22:15

I loved the message it sent to the country. We may not have the government we wanted but all those who had a re-energized belief in British politics are still there. Solidarity!

I'm aware the usual naysayers will be on here, hurling abuse. But they don't cancel out that lovely message. If anything, they make it even more important.

Pantglas2 Wed 01-Jan-20 16:28:50

Let’s hope this thread doesn’t descend into the mire like Tooting’s did and your beloved message remains untarnished GagaJo!

GagaJo Wed 01-Jan-20 16:31:36

It won't, Pantglas2. Not bothered though.

It made me happy, hearing it. That's all that counts.

It's not really about JC anymore It's us left-wingers/socialists saying, "We're still here!"

lemongrove Wed 01-Jan-20 16:57:39

I never thought you had all vanished Gaga ...but still being there doesn’t actually translate to power.
Things will have to change dramatically if the LP want to win the next GE or the one after that.
Why assume there will be ‘abuse hurled’? Most GNers simply put their point of view and leave insults to others.

Anniebach Wed 01-Jan-20 17:02:17

What is the connection between fireworks in New York and
a ‘lovely message’, ? I haven’t seen anything on the news ,
was he applauding and cheering them?

GagaJo Wed 01-Jan-20 17:05:19

That's OK then lg. There IS frequently abuse hurled but calm debate is fine. Ideal even.

'doesn't actually translate to power' - true enough. BUT socialism isn't about power, it is about sharing and equality. It was NEVER just a battle for dominance. It was a battle for the poor, the needy, the vulnerable. And the NY chanting showed that a LOT of people are still there and still want to help.

GagaJo Wed 01-Jan-20 17:06:47

Nooo Anniebach, New Year in London, the firework display!

The crowd were chanting the 'Oh Jeremy Corbyn' tune.

Oopsminty Wed 01-Jan-20 17:07:54

Why was he chanting at the fireworks?

Did he not like them?

And I assumed it was New York as well

Maybe NYE would have been better

Jabberwok Wed 01-Jan-20 17:09:00

I think it was NYE celebrations in London Annie! Irrelevant really, but it's a free country! (shrug!)

Anniebach Wed 01-Jan-20 17:09:52

Thank you GagaJo

MiniMoon Wed 01-Jan-20 17:10:09

It was the London New Year fireworks AnnieB.
There are articles about it in the online newspapers.

lemongrove Wed 01-Jan-20 17:10:10

...but you do see that unless they are actually in power, there’s nothing they can do to implement their policies?
Fine words do nothing to change anything, neither does being ideologically pure.

Anniebach Wed 01-Jan-20 17:12:29

I don’t see the connection sorry, are fireworks not linked to
Guy Fawkes and the saving of King James life

GagaJo Wed 01-Jan-20 17:12:54

You're totally missing the point lg.

It isn't about politics with a capital P. It is about grassroots, helping each other.

Supporting the vulnerable in OUR communities. Saying that just because we don't have a socialist govt, we can still do what we can to help.

The battle for government is over. Really. EVERYONE has moved on.

lemongrove Wed 01-Jan-20 17:13:25

They will maybe soon be chanting Oh Rebecca Long Bailey?
If so, the next GE may be the same result as this one.
I hope the LP gets it right with choice of leader.

Anniebach Wed 01-Jan-20 17:14:06

In London ? That doesn’t represent the country though

lemongrove Wed 01-Jan-20 17:15:48

Grassroots helping each other?
The church has always helped the poor and needy, so have charities and food banks and CAB volunteers.
What else did you have in mind?

lemongrove Wed 01-Jan-20 17:18:32

We can and should all help where we can, ( and do). From all political views and walks of life.
Volunteering, donating etc.

GagaJo Wed 01-Jan-20 17:31:04

Yes, lg, I agree. We should. Whatever our political allegiance.

grannyrebel7 Wed 01-Jan-20 17:41:18

Oh Jeremy Corbyn, oh Jeremy Corbyn wink Thought I'd give you another blast of it. It's great to hear he hasn't been forgotten. Poor man, smeared in the press and never given a proper chance to get his point across. He'll go down in history as the most vilified leader ever and he's such a gentleman and a true socialist.

varian Wed 01-Jan-20 17:49:27

That may be true, but if the Labour Party has ever to gain power, which is the only way they can influence our future, it is glaringly obvious that they must ditch Corbyn and Corbynism. Having a new leader in the Corbyn mould would mean many more years of Tory government.

GagaJo Wed 01-Jan-20 17:49:45

I agree grannyrebel7. I admire him.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 01-Jan-20 18:02:36

varian I totally agree, I am not a Labour voter, but can see that the party needs to move away from "momentum led" politics if it is ever to be electable.

Grany Wed 01-Jan-20 19:08:16

Rachael Swindon #KeepLabourLeft
I thought I heard someone say #OhJeremyCorbyn

Chewbacca Wed 01-Jan-20 19:11:42

The crowd were chanting the 'Oh Jeremy Corbyn' tune.

But not enough of the chanters were also voters; hence he lost.