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Danger man Trump strikes again

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BlueBelle Fri 03-Jan-20 08:33:55

Two days into the New Year and Trump sets the whole of world peace into jeopardy There will be huge repercussions

Iam64 Sun 05-Jan-20 09:04:52

SueDonim, I don't see how the state sponsored murder of the Iranian military leader be anything other than an act of war, or act of state sponsored terrorism.

Chewbacca, well said ( 23.35 04.01.20)

Yehbutnobut Sun 05-Jan-20 09:27:40

Trump is out for only one person. Himself.

Like Boris, who is too busy sunning himself and shagging his current girlfriend in Mustique to even make a comment let alone cut short his holiday.

Callistemon Sun 05-Jan-20 09:30:19

Dominic Raab urges a diplomatic route

GrannyGravy13 Sun 05-Jan-20 10:19:08

Anybody who thinks our PM is not in contact with his Ministers and top Civil Servants whilst on holiday knows very little about UK politics.

(It’s been reported that he is returning today)

Riverwalk Sun 05-Jan-20 10:31:15

I'm genuinely shocked that Trump is threatening Iran's cultural sites.

It was sickening to see the likes of the Taliban blowing up the Buddhas of Bamiyan, and ISIS bulldozing Palmyra, sites that had stood for millennia.

Isfahan & Persepolis are world heritage sites - I can't believe that the US would even hint at destroying them! shock

maddyone Sun 05-Jan-20 10:42:57

Agreed GG13, obviously BJ will be kept fully informed of events as they evolve, and will be briefed of all developments. I saw that he is returning today. I’m not sure what difference it would have made if he had returned yesterday or on Friday. This is Trump’s ‘war’ and we all seem to be in agreement that we don’t want any part in it, although I believe two of our warships have been dispatched to the area. The reason given is ‘to protect our troops.’
Apparently Trump is writing threatening tweets. I wish Twitter had never been invented. People like Trump misuse it terribly.

Luckygirl Sun 05-Jan-20 10:48:13

They now have a high-profile martyr to rally around. A false move from Turdman Plod. Silly man.

Riverwalk Sun 05-Jan-20 10:57:05

I wish Twitter had never been invented. People like Trump misuse it terribly.

I so agree Maddyone

Apparently Trump and Suleimani used to have ding-dongs with each other on Twitter. Madness!

Alexa Sun 05-Jan-20 11:02:57

The murder of Suleimani is like as if a secret agent from a foreign country had assassinated Trump.
The assassination of Suleimani is like what the Russians did with that poison in Salisbury, except more people will die as a result of what Trump did.

Well it's up to the Iranians now how they respond.

MerylStreep Sun 05-Jan-20 11:04:49

I think some of you would be horrified if you knew how many times our secret ops nuclear subs went on red alert in the 1980s.

trisher Sun 05-Jan-20 11:19:36

Oh if only they had stuck to Twitter It's just occurred to me that actually maybe that is why Trump acted-bested on Twitter by someone -take things further and I've got a bigger gun than you have! It's what social media leads to an a massive scale.
All those posting about how I should be proud of our soldiers, have you considered that that is why there are homeless ex-military living on our streets? Because they are sold your pride on a major scale and enlist thinking they are doing something good and noble, the problem being that there is nothing good or noble about war, particularly when most of the casualties are civilians. But by the time they find that out they are irrevocably damaged and find it impossible to adjust. Perhaps if they were never told it was something to be proud of they wouldn't go in the first place.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 05-Jan-20 11:22:53

MerylStreep agree, our secret services should stay secret.

We have ships deployed in the Gulf to protect the passage of oil tankers, it is logical to deploy more in order to
keep this narrow straight open and safe.

jura2 Sun 05-Jan-20 11:27:36

This from the Mirror today- we are already involved, up to the hilt- and if Trump asks us to act, we will have to. We are desperate for a Trade Deal- and totally isolated now from Europe. He says jump, and we will have to- and our troops will be right in it- then our people, families, grandchildren

''A Royal Navy nuclear-powered submarine is ready to strike Iran if tensions in the Middle East escalate to a full-scale combat, reports claim.

The submarine, which is kept in the region at all times, is armed with 20ft-Tomahawk missiles which each carry a 1,000lb high-explosive warhead with enough power to destroy a building.

The weapon has a range of more than 1,550 miles, travels at a speed of 550mph and has a GPS guidance system allowing it to switch targets mid-flight.

Armed force officials are working to ensure Britain is ready to back America militarily if asked, amid fears of an "accidental war" between Iran and the US, it is said.

Elite operatives from the Special Air Service and the Special Boat Service were also said to be heading to Iraq, ready for rescue missions.''

GrannyGravy13 Sun 05-Jan-20 11:28:01

trisher yes there are ex-servicemen on the streets and speaking from a position of knowledge there is an awful lot of support for ex-servicemen some choose not to make use of it.

There are people from all walks of life on the streets of UK and Countries worldwide.

You take every opportunity to knock the armed forces so I assume that if circumstances ever arise that you or your family need assistance from them your conscience will make you decline their help.

Callistemon Sun 05-Jan-20 11:28:53

Twitter seems to have invaded Gransnet too.

I suppose we should just ignore all the endless cut and paste jobs.

merlotgran Sun 05-Jan-20 11:29:16

We don't have many ships to send, GG13 grin

GrannyGravy13 Sun 05-Jan-20 11:30:51

jura2 UK troops, submarines, warships, aircraft and Special Services are continuously deployed and armed worldwide.

Callistemon Sun 05-Jan-20 11:31:31

Yes, theremare ex-servicemen and women on the streets, the reasons complex as with all homelessness.

However, there is a lot of help available for them from many charities if they choose to take it up.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 05-Jan-20 11:34:03

merlotgran agreed but what we lack in ships we make up for in expertise and experience.

I would be happy to see more ships commissioned, it could bring employment to thousands.

Callistemon Sun 05-Jan-20 11:34:16

Goodness me, I thought The Mirror was one of the despised tabloids which peddle misinformation!
reports claim

Well, the submarine is there to protect shipping in Straits of Hormuz is it not? It hasn't just arrived.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 05-Jan-20 11:35:43

Callistemon you are correct.

Hysteria running high on GN today?

Callistemon Sun 05-Jan-20 11:36:12

rescue missions

Callistemon Sun 05-Jan-20 11:38:28

Armed Forces officials are working to ensure Britain is ready to back America militarily if asked

We don't have Blair in charge any longer.

Chewbacca Sun 05-Jan-20 11:41:28

You take every opportunity to knock the armed forces so I assume that if circumstances
ever arise that you or your family need assistance from them your conscience will make you decline their help

I would sincerely hope so GG13; I'd hate to think that my loved ones were putting themselves in danger for someone who clearly despises and disrepects them as much as one particular poster on here does. Let's hope they never need the assistance of our armed forces.

growstuff Sun 05-Jan-20 11:46:14

Is hysteria your new buzzword GrannyGravy hmm