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Sussexborn Sat 18-Jan-20 18:49:35

It looks as if Harry and Meghan really may have to make their own way in the world after all. Hopefully their new landlord will put his hand in his pocket if need be. He probably won’t miss the odd £billion.

I am surprised as I thought they would be given whatever they want to avoid any tell it as they see it documentaries.

Pantglas2 Sun 19-Jan-20 14:20:17

Nezumi65 - they weren’t toxic until she dropped them once she was dating Harry? She has a habit of distancing herself from folks no longer useful to her so who’s toxic?

Jaycee5 Sun 19-Jan-20 14:21:41

SirChenjin It isn't her entire family. There are cousins who have spoken out in support and also don't keep in touch with her father and step father. She hasn't fallen out with her mother. Only her father and part of her step family who have all made money out of being nasty to her. Her step sister has another step family who will have nothing to do with her. You can't seriously be blaming her for her family.

Jaycee5 Sun 19-Jan-20 14:22:41

Nexumi65 She hadn't been in touch with her father and step sister for years prior to meeting Harry. That was one of her step sister's gripes.

Nezumi65 Sun 19-Jan-20 14:23:42

Her mother hasn’t turned against her. Her fathers family has including her thoroughly unpleasant sister. Maybe that has more to do with it. Poor woman can’t choose her family. The people I know who have cut ties with parents have all had very good reason to do so. Given his behaviour since she cut ties it would seem she also had very good reason to do so.

He’s a vile man who is willing to sell his daughter to the sharks of Fleet Street. I don’t give two hoots about the royal family but find the way she has been vilified revolting. It isn’t THAT difficult to not sell your story. Even if you feel you have been badly treated a decent person would not be acting the way he is.

Nezumi65 Sun 19-Jan-20 14:25:06

Given the way he’s behaved she presumably had very good reason to distance herself. He managed to bankrupt himself after a 750k lottery win so doesn’t seem the most stable of fellows.

Jaycee5 Sun 19-Jan-20 14:26:58

Nezumi65 Sorry, my last post should not have been addressed to you.

growstuff Sun 19-Jan-20 14:27:42

I guess some people don't consider an actor being a real job! hmm

pinkquartz You have no idea why Thomas Markle showed the letter or how much he was paid for doing so.

In fact, just about all you do know about Meghan is via "old friends" and family, whose "revelations" are undoubtedly worth something financially, or the media, which has an axe to grind as a result of the court cases and sells copies to celeb-gossip-hungry public.

suziewoozie Sun 19-Jan-20 14:28:21

What’s quite obvious from the MHers camp is that anyone on ‘their’ side is absolutely wonderful. So TM, LF, PM must not be criticised in any way, shape or form no matter how reprehensibly they might behave in other areas of their miserable lives. My enemy’s enemy is my friend.

Nezumi65 Sun 19-Jan-20 14:29:45

Ah thanks Jaycee. Someone on another thread said the thing she had done wrong (in other people’s eyes) was distancing himself from her father and I couldn’t quite believe it (given how unpleasant his behaviour has been). Seems that’s where some of the blame has landed. Bizarre.

Her mum does appear to be lovely. So at least she has one supportive parent.

SirChenjin Sun 19-Jan-20 14:30:07

You have to admit Jaycee - there are very few people from her family or exes or past friends lining up to speak positively about her, and her guest list was very light. Her recollections of her father and what he paid for also seems hazy.

Nezumi65 Sun 19-Jan-20 14:31:05

Perhaps her close friends just aren’t willing to sell stories to the papers

SirChenjin Sun 19-Jan-20 14:32:05

What’s quite obvious from the MHers camp is that anyone on ‘their’ side is absolutely wonderful. So TM, LF, PM must not be criticised in any way

Can you point to where anyone on here who has criticised the behaviour of M &H has said anything of the sort? Or has your imagination come up with that all by itself?

Nezumi65 Sun 19-Jan-20 14:33:47

Well I find it extraordinary that anyone would view TM as anything other than a money grabbing bastard but seems there are some who see him as some sort of wronged perfect father.

Curlywhirly Sun 19-Jan-20 14:33:49

Nezumi65 - well, when Meghan announced she was getting married, she was obviously still on good terms with her father (or she wouldn't have chosen him to give her away). Perhaps if Meghan had done the usual thing and visited him to introduce her fiance to him, and then got him some royal protection, perhaps things would have turned out better. He appeared to have been left to fend for himself amid all the media hype. Yes, he acted foolishly, but the poor man ended up having a heart attack - surely she could have found it in her heart to at least visit him (after the wedding) to try and clear things up.

Phloembundle Sun 19-Jan-20 14:39:48

Very interesting article in Saturday Telegraph comparing H&M to Wallis and Edward. I hope H can make a life for himself and not be dragged around after M.

suziewoozie Sun 19-Jan-20 14:41:11

SirC I’ve made a very rational inference , from all the many comments over the last week. All the MHers just always agree with anyone (no matter what toe rags they are elsewhere) who criticises MM. No sign of any critical faculties in play at all.

Nezumi65 Sun 19-Jan-20 14:46:34

If she was on good terms with her father when getting hitched why hadn’t she seen him before? As for the Torygraph - that paper has become a populist embarrassment over the last few years. I frequently come across Torygraph articles that leave me with my jaw on the floor (on all manner of subjects).

I suppose her and Wallace Simpson share nationality. Enough of a reason to be suspicious of them ?

Curlywhirly Sun 19-Jan-20 15:13:46

I know Nezumi65, I also wonder why she hadn't visited her father before the wedding. I do think she and the royal family should have prepared him and shielded him from the inevitable press intrusion; leaving him on his own was a disaster waiting to happen.

Anniebach Sun 19-Jan-20 15:22:57

In fairness to Mr Markle, they didn’t visit him , no introduction to his future son in law . The photographs of him at the tailors was unfortunate but the man had worked in
Hollywood, not the real world. There was no one to advise him.

SirChenjin Sun 19-Jan-20 15:32:53

All that has actually happened over the last week suziewoozie is that people have expressed different opinions from yours on H&Ms behaviour.

pinkquartz Sun 19-Jan-20 15:36:12

growstuff

people on here said it wasn't true that we the taxpayers paid for the renovations to the cottage...in fact it was true.
You know nothing so you cannot tell me I know nothing!

You don't allow an opinion that you do not agree with
You think everyone should see the samething we don't

Nezumi65 Sun 19-Jan-20 15:41:42

I wouldn’t have thought TM would need specific advice not to share private letters or shaft his daughter to the press. Surely that just comes under being a decent human being.

SirChenjin Sun 19-Jan-20 15:50:31

Yes, decent human beings shouldn’t make money out of theit royal connections on one hand whilst shunning their toxicity on the other.

SirChenjin Sun 19-Jan-20 15:51:17

With one hand/with the other

Anniebach Sun 19-Jan-20 15:55:45

Megan Markle’s friends leaked parts of the letter to a magazine. After this Mr Markle released the letter to the press.