H & M wish list

Annie, I agree with you. Recently H+M do seem to have been taking every opportunity to talk about themselves. This is not in the remit of royal tours and charity events. Personally I’m very sorry Harry has made this decision, I’ve always liked him, or liked what we’ve been permitted to know about him.
Given they’ve decided to go, it’s probably best they go. But I dislike intensely that they will be using their world wide fame to make money, it’s distasteful. They are rich enough already, they should live quietly in my opinion, a normal, not in the public eye, life. Absolutely not trading on the royals to get even richer.

I’m not angry at all. I’m just disagreeing with the pitchfork waving.b

In terms of evidence about what friends may or may not have said this article describes the Mail’s defence. The bits relating to Jessica Mulroney are the relevant bits in relation to whether or not she authorised friends to release parts of the letter www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/15/meghan-duchess-sussex-mail-sunday--case-letter-thomas-father

Actually maddyone I would say that Twitter is generally more supportive than not of Harry and Meghan - certainly more supportive than GN.

As for baby Archie the reason I mentioned it is because he had awful comments made about him on multiple sites. When I read them it dawned on me that just maybe they had a very good reason to do their best in trying to live a private life as much as possible.

I'm confused. What does Jessica Mulroney have to do with this?

When I read them it dawned on me that just maybe they had a very good reason to do their best in trying to live a private life as much as possible

That's precisely what the majority of us have been questioning. They don't want a private life - they want a life in the public domain whilst they grow their global brand, and they can't grow their brand while they're shackled to royal protocol. I think most of us would be very happy for them to lead a private life as much as possible.

I only started to read this thread because I thought it was about a certain I think Scandinavian clothing and homeware shop!
Disappointed once again to read comments from people that obviously rely on gossip and supposition once again!

Didn't Thomas Markle try some prank for the paparazzi before the wedding? I've read the letter and I assumed that's what Meghan was writing about - plus talking to the media about her. As I haven't been following this saga too closely, I don't really know the details.

How do you know what they want SirChenjin?

If, as is alleged by some, Meghan is /was subjected to racism one only has to look back when not just Kate but her whole family were subjected to cruel remarks.Neither Kate or family are coloured but this did not stop derogatory remarks against them and these remarks in many cases continue to do so. Persons are clearly sick who do this and it will not, unfortunately, stop but it is sad that the Sussex's are allowing such despicable sort's to get the upper hand especially if this is one of the reasons for leaving this country.

How do you know what they want SirChenjin?

From their statements, the global trademarking of their brand, their international charitable foundation...it's not exactly pointing to a quiet life in Canada, well away from the media spotlight, is it.

Trademarking an international foundation is an entirely normal thing to do. Which is why William and Kate did exactly the same. It would be foolhardy not to.

They say they want to continue in service. Let’s judge them in 5 years time when we can what they have actually done and not just assume the worst before they have done anything.

I don’t think they’re calling the press in. Perhaps if the press left them alone we’d be better able to judge how much whoring of their name they are willing to do (my guess is they don’t want to - I think Harry’s hatred of the press is genuine & understandable).

Does C&W trademarking include plans for a wide range of merchandise? Do they talk about a global brand?

They might want to continue in service but that wasn’t possible. Other people may have held negotiations about their future before making any announcements. They’ll be free to continue their private patronage’s and associations though, with financial support in the meantime from his dad.

The Sun was about to break the story hence the rushed announcement.

Here’s more about the Royals & IP www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/18/william-kate-companies-intellectual-property

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/9962791/Kate-Middleton-makes-her-mark-as-an-intellectual-property.html

www.today.com/news/duchess-kate-tm-charity-applies-trademark-names-kate-william-harry-1C9179682

And yes - according to the Torygraph C&W’s trademarking does include a range of merchandise

^the Royal Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry has applied to the Intellectual Property Office to trademark a wide range of goods and services.
“Clothing, footwear and headgear” are among the goods due to carry the foundation’s name ^

That was in 2013. In the intervening 7 years I can’t remember seeing any merchandise but maybe I’ve missed that as someone with no interest in wearing anything with C&W emblazoned on the front. It could very well be that H&M will go the same way - let’s hope so.

Nezumi65 (or is that susiewoozie?), there are plenty of posts on this thread describing what people think of MM, and you have posted many times yourself in her defence, what is your opinion of her?

Maddyone - I beg your pardon!! How dare you!! Where have I done that. What a disguesting post to me.

I have never spewed hatred at anyone. I am giving my opinion, which I am entitled to do. When I say haters, within that I mean the media, forums etc.

We are all giving our opinions which we to are entitled to do.

That’s my point SirChenjin - you don’t necessarily trademark to make a bucket load of cash, you do it to stop others producing cheap tat. C&W said they also trademarked so they could produce (for example) running vests for people running to raise money for their foundation etc.

Currently we have no idea why H&M have trademarked their foundation. If it turns out their flogging year towels to line their pockets with gold then I will judge accordingly, but I suspect it’s more likely their plans are similar to C&W.

I don’t know MM. I don’t dislike her for crossing her legs/holding her bump/not wearing a hat or being American though. I have seen highly edited shots of her taken entirely out of context from which I feel completely unable to judge whether she is ‘pushy’ or not. I cannot say what sort of person she is because I have never met her. I think (from seeing snippets of someone who looks close to breaking down at times) that she has struggled immensely since joining the RF (as did Diana & Sarah Ferguson). Kate seems to have had a smoother transition but had years of practice and I suspect was protected more that Meghan, Diana or Sarah Ferguson. I certainly see the similarities in the things she says with the things Diana said & I wonder what her take on it would have been.

TBH I hope not to hear much about them in the future - that’s what they want and if left alone that’s what they can get. Their life is none of my business and if it costs us less even better.

I think a slimmed down, self supporting Royal Family is a great idea. Would like to see that money redirected to the many areas that are strapped of cash now (too many to mention after a decade of austerity).

they’re apologies my teeth itched on re-reading my post

Yes Megan said very much the same as Diana said ! ! !

That’s my point SirChenjin - you don’t necessarily trademark to make a bucket load of cash, you do it to stop others producing cheap tat

I know that - but my point wasn’t about the cash, it was in response to an earlier poster and a claim that they want to lead a quiet, private life.

I hope they do lead that quiet life and I hope the monarchy is slimmed down. What I don’t want to see is that slimmed down RF creating brands off of the back of that royal connection. Ultimately, does it actually matter if others produce cheap tat using your image? Your image is only famous because of its link to the RF and the position you hold within it - the idea that someone then cashes in on that that doesn’t sit right with me, especially when that person doesn’t appear to think much of the institution or constraints it places upon them.

But the only evidence they are planning to cash in has come from the tabloids. They haven’t said what they plan to do with it. Maybe their plans are much the same as William’s and Kate’s. I’ll reserve judgment until their is something to actually judge them for.

They can't afford to lead a quiet life. Their faces and persona are their fortune now.