M&H didn't let me down.

Harry the soldier, the fun chap who raced with Usain Bolt, who played with the children at Sentebale, who joined with
William and Kate to form ‘Heads Together’, who loved football and Rugby, who got the queen to take part in a sketch, who loved shooting and stalking ?

but Megan saw the inner Harry who wanted to cut off from his father, brother and extended family to lecture on global
warming, American law !

I find it very difficult to understand how Harry could reject his entire family and former life, but the fact that Meghan has rejected her family except for her mother, suggests that Meghan finds it fairly easy to cut people out of her life, and she may therefore have encouraged Harry in his actions. I think Meghan probably intended to participate fully in royal life, but she found it didn’t suit her, and so falling back on previous behaviours, she decided to cut it out of her life.

Well something more subtle and less consciously destructive than that. In other sections of this site we have discussed adult children declaring their parents "toxic" and cutting them off. Some of the posters were themselves children who did this to their own parents while others of us were parents who had it done to them - and of course the toxic people don't only have to be parents. Well supposing Meghan honestly thought her father and other relatives were toxic to her.. And supposing she felt better after cutting them out. Then she may honestly have believed that whatever was bothering Harry was probably something to do with his family, so she recommended he did the same. This could have been done with sincere intentions to help Harry, even though it was probably misguided

Megan also cut off from her husband and then cut off the celebrity chef she was in a relationship with when she met Harry.

So do you reckon she's a bit unbalanced already?

Not unbalanced, sorry but I think she is very self centred

I suspect Harry will be back.

I think you’re right ReadyMeals, so sorry to hear that this has happened to you. It may be that Meghan really believes that Harry will be better off without his family, but I think there’s very little evidence that Harry’s family were in any way toxic to him. All photographs of Harry (not including his mother’s funeral) with his family show a happy looking young man, but more recent photos show a cross and unhappy young man, except for those at his wedding and with Archie.
I don’t know whether Meghan is unbalanced or not, but I do believe she’s persuaded Harry to abandon his family and his life, and his country.

I agree maddyone, I can't believe that he'll be happy long term. Seeing the RF today, you could sense that some one was missing. Very sad!

Thats much like the rest of us & our families, there aren’t any guarantees , most of us take a leap of faith when Cupid fires his arrow?

Indeed we do Bridgeit, but when I took my leap of faith many years ago, my husband didn’t try to persuade me to abandon my family, my job, or my country. E

Have you ever wondered what you would have done, if he had ? ?

Have you Bridgeit?

Fortunately I was never in that position.
not with No1, but possibly with No 2 ,

Bridgeit, I was never in that position either. I couldn’t have abandoned my family. I don’t think I could have abandoned my job either, or my country. If a person tries to persuade their partner to abandon their family, their job, or their country, I think that would be abusive really.

This couple have moved to live abroad. How many grandparents here have adult children whose work/lifestyle took them to a different country or continent? A lot of us, from reading posts and also in my friendship group, a fair proportion have children in the US, Australia, various parts of Europe, the Middle East etc.
This doesn't mean they're estranged or cut off from the family in the UK, it means they don't live here.

And Iam how many families living in the same country, the same town even, have poor fractured relationships? Given that, despite all protestations to the contrary, we do not have a clue as to what relationships are really like between royal family members, we have no idea how close they really are. Some may well wish that others would just go and live in Australia.

Iam64 and how many of them have been free to choose their own career too and not been expected to join the family firm whether they wanted to or not?

Free to choose their own career whilst still financially supported by the family firm

I thought it was personal money that would be supporting them, not money from The Firm.

How many of them have over £2 million a year thanks to Bank of Dad?

And a country house and round the clock security

I think it’s the money that a lot of people are upset about. The taking of the advantages without the disadvantages of monarchy.
Nonetheless some people feel let down by H+M whilst others applaud them. My opinion is that they are cheapening the both themselves and the monarchy by their actions. To sell Harry to the highest bidder seems both undignified and tacky to me. After all, they already enjoyed a life of huge wealth and privilege before all of this. If they truly wanted to live a more quiet life away from public attention, then that was more than easily possible in the UK or Canada. Farming comes to mind, Princess Anne runs Gatcombe Park as a farm for example. Therefore I have to conclude that a quiet life away from the public is absolutely not what they wanted, what they wanted is extreme wealth for little work and to tread the celebrity path. And since Harry was very much admired as a royal, and incidentally never appeared to want to dump his life style before Meghan, it is my opinion that the person directly responsible for what has happened is Meghan.
I loathe this horrible and disgusting tacky behaviour from one of our royals. A quiet life was perfectly possible, but that is not what is happening.

I think it’s true maddy that a lot of people say it’s the money they are upset about. I’m not so sure - it’s a respectable smoke screen though isn’t it?

In the past Harry has expressed a wish to spend part of his time in Africa, presumably helping communities there as a working royal.

Meghan too appeared to love Africa, referring to the women as her ‘sisters’

I am sure there would have been a lot more sympathy for them if they had chosen that path, and it would have fulfilled their desire to escape media attention,but then there aren’t any mega wealthy celebrities there are there?!