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Yes, it is symbolism ... but I want one! ??

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Urmstongran Sat 22-Feb-20 13:47:08

Available from next month (once old supplies have been used up!)

Callistemon Sun 23-Feb-20 17:05:46

2.82 million pa, the 6th popular world destination
In order:

Spain
France
Italy
USA
Republic of Ireland
Portugal

Oopsminty Sun 23-Feb-20 17:34:29

How interesting.

I've been to Portugal. Many times. Beautiful country.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see other countries following suit

Lots of money in tourism

Firecracker123 Sun 23-Feb-20 17:40:33

You don't need a visa to visit Turkey now as from 1st March.

POGS Sun 23-Feb-20 17:41:28

jura2 Sun 23-Feb-20 16:56:04

'Portugal is one country- I am quite sure the majority of British travellers do not visit Portugal.'
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Is that the best you can offer?

I asked because I thought you might have some insight or at least hold an opinion as to whether it was feasible or not. The Swiss have certainly come up against the EU when trying to enact what the people vote for and that is why I have an opinion Portugal would struggle to do anything unilaterally but others disagree.

NotSpaghetti Sun 23-Feb-20 19:38:55

Just because a country is part of the EU doesn't mean they have no autonomy. Apparently it would involve the Portuguese government making agreements with both state and private hospitals. It wouldn't be free healthcare but would be the equivalent of an EHIC.

jura2 Sun 23-Feb-20 19:52:53

EHIC was payed by the country of origin- in our case, the UK. Will the UK agree to pay for British holiday makers and expats in Portugal? Really?

Callistemon Sun 23-Feb-20 19:58:09

And don't forget Madeira!

Callistemon Sun 23-Feb-20 19:59:24

It only covers emergency treatment and we have reciprocal arrangements with non-EU countries too.

jura2 Sun 23-Feb-20 20:29:19

which ones? There is one with Switzerland, as we have a reciprocal agreement with each other- don't know of any others. Please can you be more specific?

NotSpaghetti Sun 23-Feb-20 20:34:38

jura2, I think they are trying to work out if they can cover this from Portugal because they want us to go on holidaying there and for the British winter visitors to go on visiting.

I don't think for a moment Boris Johnson would want to "buy into" an EHIC.

Callistemon Sun 23-Feb-20 22:20:44

Australia, New Zealand, some Balkan countries and several other countries, easily googled, I'm sorry I cannot do links but they are listed on an NHS site.
28 countries in all

paddyanne Sun 23-Feb-20 22:43:05

but but but ,you're NOT Independent ,you're part of a UNION ,much as most of you hate to admit it ENGLAND is in partnership with Scotland,the only other signatory of the Act of Union. To be truly independent you'll need to cut the ties ,Wales and NI were "aquired" in a different way so they 'll need to be asked what they want ,to stay annexed like a colony or go it alone

Callistemon Sun 23-Feb-20 22:51:32

We're not a colony, we're a country with the best National Anthem and our own flag which is not incorporated in the uUnion flag.
Acts of Union 1536 and 1542 state that Wales is a country.
And we have our own language.

Sorry paddyanne.

Yehbutnobut Sun 23-Feb-20 22:58:14

One of the verses of the national anthem that you think is wonderful Callistemon

Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the Queen!

MawB Sun 23-Feb-20 23:03:27

Wouldn’t it be “God Save the King” ? (George I) wink

Callistemon Sun 23-Feb-20 23:04:01

That doesn't sound like the Welsh National Anthem to me confused

Callistemon Sun 23-Feb-20 23:05:29

I am trying to translate the Welsh National Anthem into English but don't recognise that verse, yehbutnobut
Sorry
Never sung it in Wales

Callistemon Sun 23-Feb-20 23:12:30

Any other Welsh grans know if that verse yehbut posted is in Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau?

I can't find it.

Callistemon Sun 23-Feb-20 23:13:00

Even if it is the best anthem!

Callistemon Sun 23-Feb-20 23:21:00

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Dollymac Sun 23-Feb-20 23:22:25

Yeahbutnobut, that verse, is of course offensive to the Scots
What a palaver over an outdated, jingoistic anthem, that should have been binned many years ago
It's tedious, old fashioned, dull and needs to go, I'm not holding my breath though. ...

Callistemon Sun 23-Feb-20 23:23:37

yehbutnobut didn't read my post properly

Callistemon Sun 23-Feb-20 23:30:19

I'm waiting for an apology but as none seems to be forthcoming I'll just say goodnight.

My post was perfectly clear.

moon

Bodach Mon 24-Feb-20 00:07:35

Yehbutnobut and Dollymac - as a Highlander whose clan was always fiercely anti-Jacobite, fighting in support of the British Crown and Government against Jacobite rebellions in 1689, 1715 and 1745/46, I have nothing against that particular (and now redundant) verse..

Dollymac Mon 24-Feb-20 00:39:21

Bodach, I completely understand your standpoint. However, my surname was proscribed
My maiden name was McGregor