Alex Salmond Trial Verdict

You also said it did however end single sex domination in all its aspects. I pointed out that was incorrect as single sex provision is protected under the act.

Galaxy if you had read my last post thoroughly you would have witnessed that in regard to the Equality Act I stated "
In that, the Equality Act 2010 brought forward full equality for women in all sectors of British society".

Apologies for having to point out your error.

Well said, Galaxy, Trisher & SirChenjin.

I’m trying not to fed the need anymore, Anniebach! It’s hard typing when sitting on your hands.

If anyone wants to support the work done in this area, the end violence against women coalition does some great work.

Single sex provision is protected under the Equality Act, what on earth are you talking about.

I stay in the wish that the forum will become much more diverse in acceptance that both genders will be well represented in their views here.

However, I have always wondered why when so many women on this forum constantly state their demand for Equality with their male counterparts they still wish to maintain female only sectors such as is their desire for this site.

In that, the Equality Act 2010 brought forward full equality for women in all sectors of British society, it did however also end single-sex domination in all its aspects inclusive of forums such as this.

The above however is sadly still obviously not acceptable to a considerable number of members of this forum.

I agree anniebach, it diverts attention from the work that needs to be done. Utter waste of energy.

I suspected you might Grandad - no woman is going to tell you what you should do, is she.

It’s most strange that a man would want to stay on a female dominated site which is, in his view, overrun by wholesale misandry.

I thought you were staying to write epistles

SirChenjin, have no doubts I shall be remaining if only because of such posts as that of yours above. ?

let’s not feed the need

If you find this female dominated site chock full of wholesale misandry then perhaps it’s time to move to a forum where misogyny and lack of understanding and insight into the challenges faced by women is shared more widely by fellow posters.

SirChenjin Quote [Not at all Grandad - I notice you because of your misogynistic posts and because you’re one of the few men on here.] End Quote.

Yes, and the misandry on this forum never ceases to amaze me.

Indeed it was that wholesale misandry many flung at me when I entered this forum by mistake believing it was for all grandparents that so offended me I made up my mind I would remain and continue to post. ?

This thread demonstrates that wholesale misandry sadly still remains within this forum.

Absolutely agree. It will change because the law always does catch up with women rights eventually.

Galaxy it is for the prosecution or defence to convince the jury in any case of rape myths. It is then for the jury to decide if there are any myths in the case they adjudicate on.

Certainly in the case, I was a juror on the Judge left us in doubt in his summing up what constituted rape, sexual assault and sexual consent.

The recent legal proceedings against the cps failed, but womens groups will continue to pursue legal challenges and gradually things will change. Its a long game but women are tenacious in achieving protection for women and children.

Not at all Grandad - I notice you because of your misogynistic posts and because you’re one of the few men on here. You tend to talk a lot about your work and often shoehorn it into posts.

Galaxy hear hear. These women are to be commended for taking on the might of AS and risking their safety and security. The SNP are a powerful force in Scotland and their extremist supporters will stop at nothing when they perceive that someone has challenged the party. I’m sure these women were well aware that the odds of a successful outcome were very much against them but they were prepared to take the stand and for that I applaud them. Any woman who has been on the receiving end of this kind of behaviour will recognise what was described by the prosecution only too well - so yes, he’s been found not guilty of criminal behaviour but his behaviour has been made public and he’s been shown for what he is. I hope he crawls back under his sleazy little rock and that this case serves to show women that we do not have to tolerate this from any man. The justice systems across the UK will catch up with these men one day.

I think education for jurors on rape myths for example would be a start.

I dont mean campaigning re this particular verdict trisher, I mean the work that is being done around sexual assault/rape cases in general.

Jane10 but that is the jury system in Britain. Those eight people made up the majority of the jury that had been vetted and selected prior to the case starting.

Eight other jurors may have come to a different conclusion but they were not the people who made up this jury.

That is the system and there is nothing else.

Only 8 people thought the women were lying. That was all that was needed. A different 8 people might have thought differently.

It was brought by the Scottish Government Grandad1943 and lost because one of the people appointed was connected with the case www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46428570

Galaxy sadly I don't think in this case campaigning will help. It's a complicated case. Some of the things it was proved couldn't have happened, some were admitted to but regarded as consensual by AS. I think losing this case has probably set back the stuation for women as it will now be widely claimed as an example of women lying. Grandad1943 the criminal justice system in this country is all we have but that doesn't mean it should be above criticism.

trisher, did the "inquiry" take on the tenure of a full grievance hearing as under the terms of the Equality Act, and if so did it proceed to an industrial court?

Of was it just an SNP internal inquiry which could not be taken further forward?

Women are campaigning up and down the country grandad to change the system. In the way they campaigned to make rape illegal in marriage. That strangely didnt result in anarchy although many people opposed it at the time. We are used to people being frightened of women fighting for change.