New Labour LEADER

Also paddyanne, if you or anyone, especially from the right, are thinking of throwing mud at Starmer regarding anything to do with Savile, it must be remembered that Margaret Thatcher applied some 4 times to have Savile knighted and spent eleven New Year’s Eves with him! I think that shows a very cosy relationship. He was also given the keys to Broadmoor. Mrs Mary Whitehouse, the voice of morality, said "Why can't more of us be like that nice Mr Savile?"

^I repeat ‘ I reached my views on him by his own actions and
words’.^

And I repeat Annie, were you there?

I have replied

No, you haven't Annie. Were you there?

Obviously, you have the same right as any of us to chose not to answer Annie. However, if you do answer the choice is 'yes' or 'no' not some prevarication or we will all be able to form our own views.

Do form your own views, as do I

We ! Will form our own views, is this the royal - we

“No answer!” came the stern reply; “You’ll get no help from me!”​

But oh, how much insight into the fact that you are well aware Annie that, like every other human you source from those who agree and expand the views you already chose to hold.

It won’t work GracesGran

Was pleased at what Starmer said in his speech, would not make political points about Covia 19 but join together and work as one. Well that lasted nearly eight hours before he reneged. Say no more.

What did Starmer say?

It won’t work GracesGran

You mean you will not tell us the truth, Annie? Oh my. All you have to do is admit that you either read, heard or otherwise sourced your information in the same way that the rest of us mere humans do.

(I do wonder what you think will not work. It's a very simple question)

It's a ridiculous accusation in the first place gtacesgran. Imagine getting information from the MSM, the horror.

GracesgranMK3 the mystery of where Annie's views originate or when or why she stopped supporting the LP is unfathomable. Best not to go there.

Well that lasted nearly eight hours before he reneged.

If you are going to accuse someone of something could you be a tad less coy and explain exactly what leads you to think he went back on his promise Sparkling? I doubt there are any mind readers on here.

I think he may have said that the government had made some very serious mistakes. But sparkle he didn’t say he would keep totally quiet. What he said was that labour will work to support the government and where it has done well he will say it out loud, but where the government has made errors he will also make that clear, as it is obvious that when the government has received criticism e.g. over testing, PPE it has finally got off its ass and tried to do something about it.
Labour will unite with the government to defeat this, but it will be a critical friend. The best sort of friend to have really.

Labour is the opposition. It opposes.

GracesgranMK3 the mystery of where Annie's views originate or when or why she stopped supporting the LP is unfathomable.

I don't think of it as a mystery trisher. I am more inclined to think Annie kids herself far more than she pulls the wool over the eyes of anyone on here.

Labour wouldn't be much of an opposition if it didn't hold the government to account for its actions.
Clearly many mistakes were made at the beginning of this outbreak, and we now need more transparency and evidence behind decision making.

I don’t feel the wool is pulled over my eyes by Anniebach. More like her views have been consistently expressed for a long time now. We often disagree on here but im often puzzled by how necessary some find it to pursue her. Ah well, each to our own

Iam64 no one is "pursuing" anyone. I have been vigorously questioned and often castigated for my views and I always try to explain them. I don't claim to believe one thing and then post views which conflict. Can you explain how it is consistent to support the LP but not support the unions which fund and underpin the party?

Iam 64

Well said.

Trisher, why do you ask me to explain how it’s consistent to support the LP but not support the unions. I assume that’s a question you’re posing for Annie. Unless I’ve said something and forgotten.

Whitewavemark2
Yes, I agree - that's my understanding of the position also.

Rather than pursuing Annie in person, I am happy to challenge and keep challenging her extremism which is rarely based on any real understanding of the facts or impartial view of the bits and pieces she has picked up. The constant repetition is boring and annoying. If I - who you are obviously taking a pot at Iam - am boring you and annoying you, I have had a good tutor.

Iam64 you expressed the opinion that Annie had consistently expressed her views as I don't understand what is consistent about them I thought you might explain it to me. Don't worry if you can't.