Will this crisis lead to a change in Conservative attitudes?

I don't feel any affiliation to either party - Tory or LP but I feel that this 'blame game' of both parties is not useful.
If there is blame to be had then it has to be Covid19. The virus is what is causing all the problems we are having.
No government could possibly know exactly how to cope as we have never been in this situation before.
It is the media who like to stir things up and blame various people and things have gone wrong as they inevitably would
when faced with a pandemic which we have never had in most of our lifetimes.
I would like to think that our NHS would be better funded and staff treated better after this but will have to wait and see

Pigs might fly!

Perhaps this will make voters think more. Again, pigs might fly!

Pantglas2 If you look back to your posts yesterday 20.19.46 and 21.02.59 you were the one who mentioned Corbyn and McDonnell, not anyone else before you.

Tell a lie - I've just looked back again, to check my facts and find that Anniebach did in passing (but not related to this particular conversation.

But once again you are misunderstanding - no one is denigrating anybody for having a privileged backround/upbringing. We are merely suggesting that some people (not all) will have less empathy. It's easy enough to talk the talk, but not to walk the walk.

Also you still don't get it - there was no need on the part of the lefties to criticise Corbyn and McDonnell on their upbringing because they're Labour. Although the right wing press certainly had a go at several Labour MPS including their education.

Also the right wing, or even right of centre fail to realise that the majority of lefties want everybody to be able to improve themselves.

My grandfather in law (never met him - he died in the 50s) was Sheriff of Nottingham and a socialist. His father worked in the Nottingham pits and didn't want his children to do the same. My GIL worked in the fields picking potatoes as a child. As an adult he started a soft drinks company which was run as a co-op. He was an alderman and was instrumental in bring Workers' Education to Nottingham.
When he died the streets of his funeral procession were lined with people. His obituary was half of a broadsheet page, very small type, in the local paper. He was a good advertisement for socialism trying to improve ordinary people's lives.

Yggdrasil
Would I mind explaining why please?

By all means. I didn’t want the life my parents had. I wanted better. I wanted what others had. I didn’t want to go through life scraping along the bottom. I realised the only person who could change my projected path was me.

Going back to the original post I found it interesting that the two nurses Boris singled out were from New Zealand and Portugal. Will this change his policy re immigration?

oscaroll: I voted conservative and will do so again, I also read the Daily Mail. I grew up in poverty with labour voting parents.

Would you mind explaining why , please?

The problem with judging and denigrating people by their privileged education, parents jobs, childhood backgrounds is that, logically, you have to apply it everyone and that’s where it begins to look silly. So I don’t do it.

Even Thatcher (I think her parents had grocery shop).

John Major came from a 'humble 'background, so I think did Sajid Javid.

I was a Labour Party member for over 50 years so I was a caring person, I left the party (Corbyn) so became an
uncaring person, I joined labour again last year so became a
caring person again

Anniebach

A touch of whatifery here I think.

You remind me of the time I tried to claim on a travel insurance policy - each time I put forward a response to the company and asked a question, they ignored me and came back with something totally different. In the end I had to go to the Omsbudsman to sort it out.

Anyway I digress. Nowhere have I said that all Tory MPs are uncaring, or that all Labour MPs are caring. There's caring and uncaring in both parties.

I voted conservative and will do so again, I also read the Daily Mail. I grew up in poverty with labour voting parents.

Dinano

If all Labour MP’s are caring and all Tory MP’s are uncaring

What of those who vote for these parties ?

I consider myself to be left-wing and I have often criticised China on this forum.

When President Nixon went to China in the 1970s and opened it up to the world it was thought that process would eventually bring democracy to that huge nation. However, Tiananmen Square demonstrated that even the mildest of democratic thinking would not be tolerated by the extreme autocratic Chinese government.

The left throughout the world has consistently condemned the Chinese government since that time, while the right has only seen the wealth that is to be made from the huge amount of cheap labour that is available in that nation.

However, perhaps following this unprecedented crisis the world will reassess its total reliance on China for it's manufactured goods, but I very much doubt that will actually happen.

Tony Benn went to quite a lot of trouble to protect his family wealth from inheritance tax! Sensible? maybe! but not quite in the spirit of socialism! more of a dirty Tory trick I would have thought!!!

GagaJo. (21:07). David Davis MP was born to a single mother and brought up on a council estate in Tooting. There may well be other MPs brought up on council estates.

Tony Benn's paternal grandfather's were both Liberal MP's
His ethics were beyond question, he was genuine
'If we can find the means to kill people, we can find the means to help them'
He was a gentleman

Pantglas2 & Anniebach

Neither of you get it, do you. The MPs that you cite as having gone to public school and uni and are therefore, in your opinion, ungrounded, are Labour MPs. Perhaps you would like to explain why you think they're ungrounded?

Surely, being Labour MPs means that they have some awareness of how poorer people exist. Also, being Labour MPs they want to do something about the conditions of the poor. Otherwise, they'd be sitting on the Tory front bench and doing a lot better job than the current lot.

Oh, if only that were true...

Certainly! Remorseful Boris has gone to Chequers with a sewing machine to sew up hospital isolation gowns .

MaizieD please do not tell me ‘look at the whole picture’
you may ask me but not tell me

Same comment for you, Annie. Look at the whole picture, not just the education bit.

The only reason I didn't rehearse Sunak's post education career in my first post about him was that someone had already done it. a couple of posts earlier.

just using the crazy logic suggested by others that public school, uni education means you’re highly unlikely to be grounded.

And then cited 2 Labour politicians, neither of which had done the public school, uni route and neither of whom went into the finance 'industry'. Try looking at the whole picture, not the bit that appears to support your argument.

Tony Benn, father and both grandfathers were MP’s.

Benn went to prep school then Westminster School, then Oxford.

Grounded ?

Pantglas, of course where people come from matters! It is the very root of our class-based system of privilege. Why do you think there are no council-estate MPs in the HOC?

Exactly, Grammaretto.